Get Rid of Work Place Coaches

SierraOscarBravo · Post by **SierraOscarBravo** » 12 Feb 2017, 18:55

Our Work Place Coach does very little in the way of training others. What he does do, however, is help the DOM offload new housing developments onto existing walks that are already too big and even worse helps the DOM abolish walks and then add hundreds of delivery points onto other walks - apart from his own of course.

The WPC also gets away with doing no lapsing. He is a runner and cuts corners. He regularly makes time but being the WPC he is able to keep things favourable for him. Anyone else does his delivery and he is around like a shot making sure they don't 'ruin' his job.

cpsteve · Post by **cpsteve** » 12 Feb 2017, 19:05

I would jump at the chance of being one. They should be the posties first port of call with any delivery questions/problems.

Dorset Plodder · Post by **Dorset Plodder** » 12 Feb 2017, 20:18

Well that seems unanimous then? Basically £30 a week for doing bugger all. Surprised we haven't had any WPCs springing to their defense.

Queeg500 · Post by **Queeg500** » 13 Feb 2017, 09:20

Phantom wrote:It's the not the work place coach's fault if Managers don't utilise their role correctly, it's purely down to crap management, as is most things wrong with Royal Mail. Managers should be made part time and that would save millions!

I agree, it's bad management. In my last office the workplace coach really put in the effort, even if he saw me doing something wrong after 2 years he'd correct me, he would often be last back because he was helping out new starters. Current coach is awful, he gets angry when he has to do any coaching because it "cuts into his time", our DOM really needs to have a word with him, but he just lets it happen.

robbertwhitton · Post by **robbertwhitton** » 13 Feb 2017, 12:04

Ha!! Yep it's not for me,I don't have the time or the incentive to be one,knowing full well to train someone to do the job properly safely and securely will take them too long to complete there round and we can't have that in this climate! The Dom will have a sesure,and have a go at me ,best left well alone and sweep issues under that good old carpet !!

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 13 Feb 2017, 12:26

I have been asked in the past to become a WPC and a Manager. The offer of management I turned down because the culture and style within Royal Mail is too poisonous and too target orientated. I doubt most have heard of the sweet spot on a Venn diagram.

I opted not to become a WPC for different but related reasons. The WPCs are caught between a rock and a hard place. They are meant to be there to train new starters, and to train everyone on new processes and anyone that managers think needs their training updated. All sounds good on paper, however, WPCs aren't responsible for finding work, they should be assigned it. That means lazy managers pass on managerial tasks (such as counselling, customer complaints and tracking errors) to avoid confrontation.

So WPCs not being used by correctly by management, and using them to "bollock" OPGs, means that the Posties see them as bosses narks and not doing enough for the extra money they get. Is it worth the extra £36 a week to get moaned at, and looked down at by both managers and posties. I didn't think so, and this thread just reinforced that belief.

As a side note its also the reason I try not to give ours grief when they need a least a small measure of empathy.

Chelseablue · Post by **Chelseablue** » 13 Feb 2017, 14:57

Months go by and still no training by any wp coach , thats a hellava lot f money over a year , a complete waste of money . £30 odd a week and paid it on hols , should be paid only if they train someone, as the hassle you get if you want to claim your overtime is a joke . How much saving s would that be all over the uk .?

gunnerj · Post by **gunnerj** » 13 Feb 2017, 16:07

Looking at these responses , really looking forward to my interview tomorrow

, I get on well with colleagues and management , if I get the job it doesn't mean I will turn into an r sole overnight .

rubberbond · Post by **rubberbond** » 13 Feb 2017, 16:49

gunnerj wrote:Looking at these responses , really looking forward to my interview tomorrow , I get on well with colleagues and management , if I get the job it doesn't mean I will turn into an r sole overnight .

They're not all bad , we have three in our office and at least one of them is alright,the other two,I wouldn't pay in used bus tickets. They're about as much use as piles on a jockey.

Chelseablue · Post by **Chelseablue** » 13 Feb 2017, 18:51

Weve 4 at over£120 a week between them for doing same as us , pretty bad waste of money moya

Supersonicvandriver · Post by **Supersonicvandriver** » 13 Feb 2017, 19:00

THIS IS THE BEST SAVING RM CAN MAKE. I hope they do cut it as ive never seem them do out. I wonder how much money nation wide is lost on this waste of money defo.

Stunl3y · Post by **Stunl3y** » 13 Feb 2017, 19:22

We have 2 in our office , one has been long term sick and hasn't done a solitary thing as a coach and the other needs coaching himself and has also done not one single thing. Personally I feel they shouldn't get anything unless they actually do something.

Post by **Lounge Lizard** » 13 Feb 2017, 20:51

gunnerj wrote:Looking at these responses , really looking forward to my interview tomorrow , I get on well with colleagues and management , if I get the job it doesn't mean I will turn into an r sole overnight .

Not overnight, more like about a fortnight.

HarryPoorer · Post by **HarryPoorer** » 13 Feb 2017, 21:12

we need MSE's Martin Lewis to coach Moya on how to save ££Millions, like scrap wpc, graduates , lino's etc.

19times · Post by **19times** » 13 Feb 2017, 21:42

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:I have been asked in the past to become a WPC and a Manager. The offer of management I turned down because the culture and style within Royal Mail is too poisonous and too target orientated. I doubt most have heard of the sweet spot on a Venn diagram.

I opted not to become a WPC for different but related reasons. The WPCs are caught between a rock and a hard place. They are meant to be there to train new starters, and to train everyone on new processes and anyone that managers think needs their training updated. All sounds good on paper, however, WPCs aren't responsible for finding work, they should be assigned it. That means lazy managers pass on managerial tasks (such as counselling, customer complaints and tracking errors) to avoid confrontation.

So WPCs not being used by correctly by management, and using them to "bollock" OPGs, means that the Posties see them as bosses narks and not doing enough for the extra money they get. Is it worth the extra £36 a week to get moaned at, and looked down at by both managers and posties. I didn't think so, and this thread just reinforced that belief.

As a side note its also the reason I try not to give ours grief when they need a least a small measure of empathy.

This is the main issue for me having been taken to 'task' by a WPC some of these things, safe to say I didn't react too well to her/his way of questioning.

I just couldn't accept it coming from a WPC rightly or wrongly but in my opinion a Manager should deal with these things.

It divides the workforce too.