Now i hope i am not the only one a bit worried about de-coupling of pensions from the agreement.
My worry is based on the fact that whilst pensions were part of the whole dispute it allowed us to protect them. Now they are de-coupled are the union going to come back in 60 days time and say 'we don't like the deal' and then ballot for industrial action? Can you see us all coming out for pensions on their own?
What about d2d and the seperate talks, they haven't solved the problem its just been shifted to the near future.
Monthly pay has also basically been agreed, along with having a working group look at workrates, attendence procedures and we know what that means!
So we have ended up with an agreement where the really big issue pensions has been set aside, which actually weakens our postion.
Further more lots of things are parked with out resoultion.
The agreement stinks!
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Re: Putting aside?
Totally agree, to much of the agreement left to talking workshops and left to local managers who we know in the past interpret the agreement as they see fit, vote it out, a big fat no from me.stephen500 wrote:Now i hope i am not the only one a bit worried about de-coupling of pensions from the agreement.
My worry is based on the fact that whilst pensions were part of the whole dispute it allowed us to protect them. Now they are de-coupled are the union going to come back in 60 days time and say 'we don't like the deal' and then ballot for industrial action? Can you see us all coming out for pensions on their own?
What about d2d and the seperate talks, they haven't solved the problem its just been shifted to the near future.
Monthly pay has also basically been agreed, along with having a working group look at workrates, attendence procedures and we know what that means!
So we have ended up with an agreement where the really big issue pensions has been set aside, which actually weakens our postion.
Further more lots of things are parked with out resoultion.
The agreement stinks!
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:cfo & :lfo must be pissing themselves laughing, that messrs hayes and ward have coersed the PEC into accepting this, and if it does get in then :cfo & :lfo will be wanted men by the corporate establishment for being able to subdue us with the same deal as we rejected and went on strike for!!! 
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[quote="Macca"]:cfo & :lfo must be pissing themselves laughing, that messrs hayes and ward have coersed the PEC into accepting this, and if it does get in then :cfo & :lfo will be wanted men by the corporate establishment for being able to subdue us with the same deal as we rejected and went on strike for!!!
macca thats a bit harsh dont you realise ward & hayes need to ensure they get thier nice cushy place at the governments table just like thoses that have gone before. What better way to do it !!!!
macca thats a bit harsh dont you realise ward & hayes need to ensure they get thier nice cushy place at the governments table just like thoses that have gone before. What better way to do it !!!!