It's back! Win a car if you have 100% attendance!

nickbsmooth · Post by **nickbsmooth** » 19 Dec 2016, 18:44

The car's crap anyway. I can't believe anyone's going to not go off sick when they've got the flu,because they will miss out on a very long shot of winning a poverty spec fiesta. It should be illegal as it's basically a kind of blackmail.

Post by **General Mannerheim** » 19 Dec 2016, 19:28

fishtank wrote:Employment Law: Attendance Rewards - Legal Ramifications

If you were thinking of offering your employees special rewards as incentives for having good attendance records, then you must read on. In fact, employers that offer attendance bonuses may find themselves falling foul of the law.

The Royal Mail introduced a rewards scheme for staff that did not to take time off sick. Under the Royal Mail's scheme, workers with full attendance records were entered into a prize draw to win Ford Focus cars or holiday vouchers worth £2,000. As a staff incentive, it seemed to work. The Royal Mail says its overall sickness absence levels fell during a nine-month period (between August and April) by 11%.

However, such schemes could have serious ramifications from a legal viewpoint, and leave employers vulnerable to a variety of legal claims.

Discrimination

1. Employees could bring discrimination claims on the grounds of disability or sex. The success of these claims would depend on each employee's particular circumstances and needs, whether in relation to their family, religion or health.
2. Alternatively, qualifying employees could bring claims for being subjected to detriment treatment as a result of asserting their statutory rights, for example, for:-
Time off for dependants and antenatal care;
Time off for study or training or time off for jury service
Maternity leave;
Adoption leave; or
Paternity or parental leave;

3. Disability discrimination may occur if, for example, an employee had time off connected to a disability and this was not taken into account by the employer under the reward scheme. The employee might claim that the failure of the employer to set aside his/her absence for disability related reasons amounted to less favourable treatment.

How can employers protect themselves from such claims?

Employers can avoid these pitfalls by including a list of exceptions in the reward scheme, for example, jury service or study leave, taking into account any statutory rights to time off; or
Pay bonuses to employees connected to performance in their job rather than implementing an attendance reward.

Employers should be wary of adopting an attendance bonus scheme without legal consultation.

I'm sure Wankmans and all the other parasites have fully briefed them.

postmandick · Post by **postmandick** » 19 Dec 2016, 20:00

so as a magistrate does that mean I wont qualify due to taking time off to attend court ?

are but I have just read the T&C and its unauthorized absences

so bring on the car

Post by **Judgee** » 19 Dec 2016, 20:07

Don't be so pessimistic of course people will win them.

Moya Greene will win one and her top favourite ten lackeys will win the rest.... all by pure chance of course!

ted_e_bear · Post by **ted_e_bear** » 19 Dec 2016, 20:37

Yes bit disappointed, I've got a pretty good attendance record, lucky I suppose but I'm awaiting a procedure in the near future that will result in a couple of days off sick, annoying as I'm certainly not playing the system, any time I've ever had off is 100% legitimate!!

Post by **bustedflush** » 19 Dec 2016, 20:39

Remember the Courier iPad quiz back in Nov/December 2014? (IIRC) There was small van/driving safety quiz which I entered and prizes were one of 6 iPads. I religiously checked the Courier thereafter and the results NEVER appeared. No winners ever announced. I did actually mention it on here about a year later. So the availability of these 'prizes' has about as much believability with me as if you told me you found a pile of reindeer crap on your landing Christmas morning.

nickbsmooth · Post by **nickbsmooth** » 19 Dec 2016, 20:43

If the company really wanted to successfully blackmail then a generous cash incentive for every employee who's not off work, might stop the flaky ones from going sick.
This however would be some what illegal I suspect and unfair on the 1000s whom are genuinely ill.

raymod · Post by **raymod** » 19 Dec 2016, 21:41

I actually found this pretty insulting 12 years at royal mail not a single day sick and nothing from the company to show for it
I'm pretty sure four months should be pretty easy

Jpro747 · Post by **Jpro747** » 19 Dec 2016, 22:00

It's not the first time this company has broken the law and it won't be the last.

Post by **mjt120** » 20 Dec 2016, 08:23

bustedflush wrote:Remember the Courier iPad quiz back in Nov/December 2014? (IIRC) There was small van/driving safety quiz which I entered and prizes were one of 6 iPads. I religiously checked the Courier thereafter and the results NEVER appeared. No winners ever announced. I did actually mention it on here about a year later. So the availability of these 'prizes' has about as much believability with me as if you told me you found a pile of reindeer crap on your landing Christmas morning.

I won one of the ipads so it's not a scam, not sure why it wasn't in courier but I can confirm they did issue iPads to the 6 winners, very nice apple iPad which I'm still using today.

Mr Incognito · Post by **Mr Incognito** » 20 Dec 2016, 14:53

2 days down, 118 to go...

fishtank · Post by **fishtank** » 20 Dec 2016, 15:50

Mr Incognito wrote:2 days down, 118 to go...

You and me both...

fishtank · Post by **fishtank** » 20 Dec 2016, 15:55

Does anyone think it's morally wrong to spread a little norovirus around the office just to kind of improve the odds a little?

toomuchcoke · Post by **toomuchcoke** » 20 Dec 2016, 16:10

nickbsmooth wrote:If the company really wanted to successfully blackmail then a generous cash incentive for every employee who's not off work, might stop the flaky ones from going sick.
This however would be some what illegal I suspect and unfair on the 1000s whom are genuinely ill.

They could, for instance, have a bonus scheme that pays out when you've accumulated enough time not-ill? i.e. You can have time off sick, it just delays the date that the bonus will be paid to you? (And hence you'd get less bonus(es) over time against those people who where less ill than you.)

fishtank wrote:Does anyone think it's morally wrong to spread a little norovirus around the office just to kind of improve the odds a little?

As long as you're not planning on doing that in my delivery office, then have at it!

Binsey · Post by **Binsey** » 20 Dec 2016, 16:13

DB1100 wrote:Another crock of s**t,It's much harder to have 100% attendance in delivery than say a mail centre.

True to a degree. But Mail Centre work nights which are really detrimental to health .