Ban on overtimefor the Xmas period

Surreypostie · Post by **Surreypostie** » 17 Nov 2016, 16:10

Our office is already a mess, people bringing bags of mail back, nobody has any wish, apart from a few that can do their overtime in their duty hours and get finished in time, to do any overtime. The teflon lot, start early, no breaks, step everything, scan nothing, carve it up, managers love them, sign their docket, no problem as they get the stuff out of the door, complaints swept under the carpet as they are our golden boys.

nickbsmooth · Post by **nickbsmooth** » 17 Nov 2016, 16:16

I've introduced a OT ban on myself. I'm sure there's plenty of greedy kids at work who'll do it instead.

worktotime · Post by **worktotime** » 17 Nov 2016, 17:03

send Moya an email asking where there is a ban on o/t , and send a few pics of stuff left

, then the area manger will be bye bye

postslippete · Post by **postslippete** » 17 Nov 2016, 17:41

Its sounds to me like a classic bullying tactic to try and goad posties into taking all their mail and packets out and not claim any overtime for it - even if by any chance you worked past your time.

It's funny how years ago most of us in our office never ever had to employ the overrunning procedure (the dreaded wilful delay!) and yet now, most of us are forced to use the overrunning procedure because rounds have been extended and there are more packets to get through, plus fewer staff to help out in both sorting and delivery.

So it will only take a few of you to start working to time, and yes there will always be a few runners who will get in a bit of docket extra, but believe me even they get tired of doing extra all the time. Our work takes it's toll on everybody.

postslippete · Post by **postslippete** » 17 Nov 2016, 17:47

Oh sorry, i forgot, you said that there was an overtime ban, so the runners can't do it!!

daveyeff · Post by **daveyeff** » 17 Nov 2016, 19:28

they've already asked us at our office who wants overtime and all those prepared to work it to put their names on the list. so he is talking ballcocks

themailman · Post by **themailman** » 17 Nov 2016, 19:42

There is definitely something brewing nationwide re: Xmas arrangements.
Deliberate misinformation (ban on overtime etc) and an almost insane level of 'we'll see how it goes' planning.

I'll be honest, what little O/T I do this year will need to be made very worthwhile.

Post by **IloveMYredTROLLEY!** » 17 Nov 2016, 20:16

Bring on that ban in my area, makes over-running procedure a piece of cake!

Has this Area manager banned OPGs working their days off and coming in on early start o/t as well?

I suspect they are going to try and play the "we are going to have dedicated duties delivering Tracked in the afternoon, giving you extra time to complete everything else" card. Problem is, we still have ~5+ Xmas cards per house to prep and outside, each time we stop to grab cards for the next address before walking to next house adds seconds per house etc.

DocketLefty · Post by **DocketLefty** » 17 Nov 2016, 21:14

Don't come in early, take your breaks, do your van checks.

stephen.cal87 · Post by **stephen.cal87** » 17 Nov 2016, 22:32

They should be banning D2d's & junk mail over Christmas rather than OT. These Micky mouse managers haven't a clue. We had a ban on over time awhile back by our DOM for some reason. Probably something dodgy. I delivered half of it one day, the other half the next. That way only half of the round is doubled up from the previous day. & if you can clear any big or bulky parcels along the way.

Postie45 · Post by **Postie45** » 17 Nov 2016, 23:15

DocketLefty wrote:Don't come in early, take your breaks, do your van checks.

and let the managers worry about the ever increasing build up of mail

Shaders · Post by **Shaders** » 18 Nov 2016, 17:33

Was told today our local mail centre has an over time ban and managers are running it

Post by **eastie** » 18 Nov 2016, 17:57

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
eastie wrote:Area manager says ban on O/T for the Xmas period and if we go over he wont pay any O/T
whatever is left is carried over till the following day
Where the mail going to go if the frames are crammed with mail from the day before
its only going to escalate
So much for privitisation
Well a national document appears to disagree with your manager.

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/communit ... 15&t=77228" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

LTB 674/16 - Christmas & New Year Arrangements 2016

Annex B

If required by workload, postmen and women can work up to a maximum of 80 gross hours in each of the two peak weeks (weeks commencing 5th and 12th December) and 72 hours in the other weeks. These are maximums and not the norm for planning purposes.

thanks for that

citypostie · Post by **citypostie** » 18 Nov 2016, 18:14

As much overtime as you want at our place, early sorting, cut offs and parcels. If they ban ot in our office the stuff left each day would make it impossible for the trucks to unload the next

Post by **rambo1** » 18 Nov 2016, 18:30

A2B wrote:Looks like a nice relaxing run up to the festive season will be had by all

When the backlog starts it would be dreadful if a local newspaper somehow received a picture of peoples cards/presents sitting undelivered

So why would you want to harm the reputation of your company, you know, the thing that puts food on yer table, just to 'teach a useless dom a lesson '? Makes more sense to inform moya what's going on and get the job done right.