CWU support of Jeremy Corbyn

[DB1100]

Here's another article about Jeremy Corbyn makes very interesting reading and our union wants to support this man
http://capx.co/the-inconvenient-truth-a ... d-the-ira/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It certainly was interesting DB and so was the dandering down the street years ago by corbyn with adams and mcguiness before the peace process.

So is the background of the writer. Not exactly an unbiased journalist.

What about all the facts and figure's how can you argue against those?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Here's another article about Jeremy Corbyn makes very interesting reading and our union wants to support this man
http://capx.co/the-inconvenient-truth-a ... d-the-ira/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It certainly was interesting DB and so was the dandering down the street years ago by corbyn with adams and mcguiness before the peace process.

So is the background of the writer. Not exactly an unbiased journalist.

What about all the facts and figure's how can you argue against those?

I haven't and don't intend to, I just believe you have to check the background of the source before accepting their opinions at face value. After all Would you accept the positions written in a book called "Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR" at face value if you realised it was written by Stalin. I am not trying to equate the two authors, I am just trying to put the position that people need to check the writer and his political opinions to understand the reason behind his opinions.

Is Corbyn perfect - No. Does he have a questionable past - who doesn't. If we dismissed politicians based on their political beliefs in a Democracy, when does it stop being a Democracy. There are politicians on both sides of the conflict that have real blood on their hands in Northern Ireland, they have been accepted by the voters. To knock someone for their questionable support of various parties in the troubles, but who committed no violent act is fine, but to write them off altogether seems a little closed minded for me, which is why I am giving him a chance.

[dvbuk55]

, which is why I am giving him a chance.

Hmmmm - bit like backing a one legged man in an ar5e kicking contest - hey yeah why not give a chance - because he hasn't got a cat in hells chance of winning

[aiden01]

Here's another article about Jeremy Corbyn makes very interesting reading and our union wants to support this man
http://capx.co/the-inconvenient-truth-a ... d-the-ira/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It certainly was interesting DB and so was the dandering down the street years ago by corbyn with adams and mcguiness before the peace process.

And without Adams and McGuiness and corbyn and ian paisley and many other politicians on both sides of our great divide would we be living in realitive peace today..

[dvbuk55]

Here's another article about Jeremy Corbyn makes very interesting reading and our union wants to support this man
http://capx.co/the-inconvenient-truth-a ... d-the-ira/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It certainly was interesting DB and so was the dandering down the street years ago by corbyn with adams and mcguiness before the peace process.

And without Adams and McGuiness and corbyn and ian paisley and many other politicians on both sides of our great divide would we be living in realitive peace today..

From The Belfast Telegraph:

Jeremy Corbyn voted against the agreement and spoke in Parliament against it: "Does the Hon Gentleman accept that some of us oppose the agreement for reasons other than those that he has given? We believe that the agreement strengthens rather than weakens the border between the six and the 26 counties, and those of us who wish to see a United Ireland oppose the agreement for that reason."

There is no historical evidence to support Corbyn having any part in the peace process. Is this another attempt to rewrite history by the Corbynistas, no doubt by next week he'll be credited with the theory of relativity and creating clause iv in 1918.

[aiden01]

we can all find different quotes about politicans from whatever background but my final word on this is we have relative peace in ireland and hopefully that will continue for hundreds of years to come.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

From The Belfast Telegraph:

Jeremy Corbyn voted against the agreement and spoke in Parliament against it: "Does the Hon Gentleman accept that some of us oppose the agreement for reasons other than those that he has given? We believe that the agreement strengthens rather than weakens the border between the six and the 26 counties, and those of us who wish to see a United Ireland oppose the agreement for that reason."

That quote wasn't about the Good Friday Agreement - it was about the Anglo-Irish agreement in 1985 - 10 years before troubles ended. Thatcher said of it herself in 1998 that she regretted signing the Agreement and said of Enoch Powell's opposition to the Agreement: "I now believe that his assessment was right" and In 1990 Thatcher said that "The Anglo-Irish Agreement had alienated some pro-Ulster supporters in crucial constituencies" in Scotland

[dvbuk55]

From The Belfast Telegraph:

Jeremy Corbyn voted against the agreement and spoke in Parliament against it: "Does the Hon Gentleman accept that some of us oppose the agreement for reasons other than those that he has given? We believe that the agreement strengthens rather than weakens the border between the six and the 26 counties, and those of us who wish to see a United Ireland oppose the agreement for that reason."

That quote wasn't about the Good Friday Agreement - it was about the Anglo-Irish agreement in 1985 - 10 years before troubles ended. Thatcher said of it herself in 1998 that she regretted signing the Agreement and said of Enoch Powell's opposition to the Agreement: "I now believe that his assessment was right" and In 1990 Thatcher said that "The Anglo-Irish Agreement had alienated some pro-Ulster supporters in crucial constituencies" in Scotland

Despite the time difference my point was his sentiment was quite plain and he had nothing to do with the peace agreement at all. In all his years in parliament he has never served on the front bench in any capacity and that should, more than anything, indicate to all and sundry with a modicum of intelligence that he is not suited to high office.

[Tman]

The people of Northern Ireland wouldn't thank the fool Corbyn if his continued support for a "united Ireland" were to result in conflict and armed struggle starting up again.
The ROI's constitution no longer lays any claim to Ulster, so for some bearded tw*t with 1970s Left wing views to keep on trying to kick some life into those particular embers is irresponsible in the extreme.
Thousands were killed and maimed to reach the relatively peaceful situation that's there now, and I can't believe that someone in the position of Her Majesty's Leader of the Opposition would seek to reopen old wounds based on his own particular (but long-discarded by everyone else) agenda.
And he wants talks with Argentina over the Falklands.....the idiot's a dangerous liability.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Despite the time difference my point was his sentiment was quite plain and he had nothing to do with the peace agreement at all. In all his years in parliament he has never served on the front bench in any capacity and that should, more than anything, indicate to all and sundry with a modicum of intelligence that he is not suited to high office.

So you say I lack intelligence.

No point in debating if you descend to personal insults.

[dvbuk55]

Despite the time difference my point was his sentiment was quite plain and he had nothing to do with the peace agreement at all. In all his years in parliament he has never served on the front bench in any capacity and that should, more than anything, indicate to all and sundry with a modicum of intelligence that he is not suited to high office.

So you say I lack intelligence.

No point in debating if you descend to personal insults.

I didn't insult you personally but all those who consider Corbyn is suited to his position. Read his history for gods sake, the man is a loser. He has been an angry young man since the 70s and cannot throw off his roots and react to the real and modern world. He will take any stance, however ludicrous, to make the point that he is different.

Now do you feel that he will ever win an election on the platform he has chosen? The Tories must be smirking behind their hands knowing that should he win this leadership challenge or even lose it the labour party will not again form a government in the foreseeable future. I shudder to think that people who profess to be labour supporters would think that splitting the labour party is the way to go.

[baldrick]

[baldrick I'll leave the histrionics to you and Tman, and the disappointed Brexiters when they discover they have been conned.

Who have you been consulting now, Gypsy Rose Lee or old Mother Hubbard's tea leaves?

I don't need to consult anyone. People who voted for Leave were reported in the media as saying that they had been misled by claims by the Leave campaign. That they thought the NHS would be getting £350m a week, and that immigration from the EU would end, both claims were abandoned by the Leave campaign the day after the referendum.
There has been at least one poll that shows that 7% of Leave voters regretted their vote. That was taken just one day after the referendum. I would think that figure will increase as the withdrawal negotiations proceed over the next couple of years, and reality sinks in.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 13336.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[baldrick]

John McDonnell did apologise for his comment on the IRA. I have yet to hear Angela Eagle apologise for her support for the war on Iraq, which led to the deaths of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of innocent civilians, men, women, and children, and the ensuing wars and chaos in the Middle East which has spilled into Europe.
Do you really think she would be a credible potential Prime Minister? She has no leadership qualities, and the media would soon turn on her too.

[Tman]

I don't need to consult anyone. People who voted for Leave were reported in the media as saying that they had been misled by claims by the Leave campaign. That they thought the NHS would be getting £350m a week, and that immigration from the EU would end, both claims were abandoned by the Leave campaign the day after the referendum.

And there you have it..."reported in the media".

Therefore it must be true, and therefore all the so-called Brexiteers have been had.

World War Three next, isn't it?

[fishtank]

I think it's a bit of a pointless argument really.
Corbyn doesn't have the support of the PLP, that isn't under question.

Rather than argue back and forward does anyone have a realistic idea how to resolve that situation?
I'm f****d if I want to spend the next four years watching the Tories screw us over while the Labour party implodes.