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Chewster · Post by **Chewster** » 02 May 2016, 00:28

aiden01 wrote:Where do you get big juicy o,t payments

Well usually to get a big juicy overtime payment, I actually have to bend over my bosses desk so he can royally shaft me while I say thank you (metaphorically of course).

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 02 May 2016, 07:10

aiden01 wrote:Where do you get big juicy o,t payments

Del Monte

Post by **aiden01** » 02 May 2016, 15:39

Chewster wrote:
aiden01 wrote:Where do you get big juicy o,t payments
Well usually to get a big juicy overtime payment, I actually have to bend over my bosses desk so he can royally shaft me while I say thank you (metaphorically of course).

Lol

Dorset Plodder · Post by **Dorset Plodder** » 02 May 2016, 20:04

Chewster wrote:
Some of us go over because we like having big juicy overtime payments at the end of the week..some of us are paying off cars..or trying to save up for a house deposit...it's not rocket science...

I think if you're going over because you want the extra overtime you wouldn't be complaining about it on here Chewster.

Problem we have is trying to get the right amount of Posties for the amount of work we have. They normaly tell us, "We think it's better that the current staff are given the opportunity to earn more overtime"!

Off the record one of the Managers admitted that Royal Mail don't like recruiting more staff, not necessarily because of the Tax & NI but more importantly the Holiday Pay & Sick Pay (which I admit is something I hadn't considered because I don't have that much Sick Abscence)

Chewster · Post by **Chewster** » 03 May 2016, 18:12

Dorset Plodder wrote:
Chewster wrote:
Some of us go over because we like having big juicy overtime payments at the end of the week..some of us are paying off cars..or trying to save up for a house deposit...it's not rocket science...
I think if you're going over because you want the extra overtime you wouldn't be complaining about it on here Chewster.

Problem we have is trying to get the right amount of Posties for the amount of work we have. They normaly tell us, "We think it's better that the current staff are given the opportunity to earn more overtime"! Off the record one of the Managers admitted that Royal Mail don't like recruiting more staff, not necessarily because of the Tax & NI but more importantly the Holiday Pay & Sick Pay (which I admit is something I hadn't considered because I don't have that much Sick Abscence)

Yeah, I think I've probably painted a picture of myself not wanting overtime. To clarify, I like overtime, but what I do not like is the manner in which I'm often given the overtime. I can ask and ask for say, to work my day off, and I won't get it. BUT THEN, when I'm finishing work the day before my day off, they'll wait till that moment to ask me if I still want to work it. Or wait till the end of the day before telling us that there's extra stuff to deliver. I hope that makes more sense lol.

Our office also has a problem with getting the right amount of staff for the job. They like to say rubbish about overtime opportunities, but really it's just the managers favourites that get all the overtime. There's one guy in our office taking home over £600 most weeks with all his overtime...I've asked for months to get trained on some collection duties (the office is woefully short of people who either know them or want to do them) but instead, a select few people are getting them all the time.

Dorset Plodder · Post by **Dorset Plodder** » 11 May 2016, 16:08

Chewster wrote:
Our office also has a problem with getting the right amount of staff for the job. They like to say rubbish about overtime opportunities, but really it's just the managers favourites that get all the overtime. There's one guy in our office taking home over £600 most weeks with all his overtime...I've asked for months to get trained on some collection duties (the office is woefully short of people who either know them or want to do them) but instead, a select few people are getting them all the time.

Don't think there's a lot you can do about Favouritism ......... If you kick up a fuss they just say you're jealous or make up some stupid excuse why Postie X is doing a collection every day! TBH if you want to earn Overtime doing collections is an easy option.

You could push for a list of aggregated overtime to be published. I've tried before but with an obstructive DOM it won't happen. Mainly becuse it highlights that the same group of people are doing 23 Hours plus overtime per week!

I believe it should be published within the DO, perhaps someone has info on it?

glass joe · Post by **glass joe** » 22 May 2016, 16:49

every office seems to have staff being under paid. loads in our office this week. Im guessing the managers do this on purpose so they can stay in budget and make some excuse it is a admin error, system down etc. its like when you get a bill don't pay it and wait for the reminder letter. if every office under pays their staff by 10 plus hours each week hoping they won't notice and in every office, royal mail must be saying 7 figures a month.

Dorset Plodder · Post by **Dorset Plodder** » 29 May 2016, 21:13

glass joe wrote:every office seems to have staff being under paid. loads in our office this week. Im guessing the managers do this on purpose so they can stay in budget and make some excuse it is a admin error, system down etc. its like when you get a bill don't pay it and wait for the reminder letter. if every office under pays their staff by 10 plus hours each week hoping they won't notice and in every office, royal mail must be saying 7 figures a month.

You're right if they conned an hours pay off every Postie in the UK it'd be big bucks!

You'd be surprised how many posties don't keep a record of their overtime!

It's not until they've been shafted a few times that they get the message. I try and work on the basis of: If I'm sort I'll tell the DOM that week and give him a chance to sort it. If it's not sorted the next week I'll tell him I'm finishing on time.... EVERY DAY!

He normally gets the message and doesn't try it on again. Although TBH the last couple of times it's been a genuine mistake....... But that doesn't stop me being cynical about this type of thing!

wheresourmoney · Post by **wheresourmoney** » 30 May 2016, 16:41

Up to a few months ago we used to have job and finish,they put a stop to this practise and replaced it with triple lapsing or double lapsing and phase 3, so the runners stopped running and the early starters started on time, after a couple of months we now have extra staff employed and more hours put back in, simple.

Hardestgrafter · Post by **Hardestgrafter** » 30 May 2016, 16:48

We get paid a good wage to do a reasonably easy job and all people do is moan moan moan.
If you don't like it go be a white van man for £7 an hour...

Post by **TrueBlueTerrier** » 30 May 2016, 16:57

WOBBLY · Post by **WOBBLY** » 30 May 2016, 17:54

wheresourmoney wrote:Up to a few months ago we used to have job and finish,they put a stop to this practise and replaced it with triple lapsing or double lapsing and phase 3, so the runners stopped running and the early starters started on time, after a couple of months we now have extra staff employed and more hours put back in, simple.

Good for you lot

Wish the idiots in our office would get the message, they're getting there but not quite!

cpsteve · Post by **cpsteve** » 30 May 2016, 21:19

All o/t should be fairly allocated if not take it up with your rep do not let it continue.