Portering

[SpacePhoenix]

Any pictures of what one of them portering trollies looks like?

[ddtc]

Any pictures of what one of them portering trollies looks like?

Imagine the ramp you push a bowling ball down, but as 2 shelves on wheels. I've done portering twice, knackers you out before you even get out. Also does not work most of the time as people in my office still have to go get the mail themselves.

[IloveMYredTROLLEY!]

The amount of OPGs that effectively do their own walk portering by clearing down IPS from the front, while IPS is still in progress, does my nut and others' nuts in. Getting in the way, with their emptying trays and reaching over to clear boxes.

Go round the back of the backless frames to clear down, you inconsiderate sods!

[hampshireman]

Task 47a - DP SSOW IPS Backless FrameTrolley V1.5 Final [R] .pdf
Here is SSOW that I had when we went through indoor methods - My reading is don't use the bottom level for trayed Mail

Use of the Porter Trolley
 Pre user visual checks on the trolley to ensure that no sharp of jagged edges are exposed
and that all wheels are operational and that the brakes work when applied. If faults found
they should be reported immediately to your line Manager.
 Brake must be applied when on slopes/uneven surfaces.
 Only four trays can placed on the upper shelf.
 Up to eight empty nested trays can be placed on the lower shelf.
 Full trays must not be placed on the lower shelf.
 Only clear one selection at a time, place the mail directly into the tray.
 Do not exceed the safe working load of the trolley [66.6kg].
 Care must be taken when manoeuvring the trolley to avoid striking others.
 Do not perform Portering for more than 2 continuous hours without having a break.

Bloody hell!!!

Your reading is correct!!!

Our' instructions' about how to 'porter ' are completely different.

I am going to go 'to town' on this one.

[gary1975]

The amount of OPGs that effectively do their own walk portering by clearing down IPS from the front, while IPS is still in progress, does my nut and others' nuts in. Getting in the way, with their emptying trays and reaching over to clear boxes.

Bit hard in our office since they pushed the two backless frames back to back in our office after a week.

Go round the back of the backless frames to clear down, you inconsiderate sods!

[SpacePhoenix]

Task 47a - DP SSOW IPS Backless FrameTrolley V1.5 Final [R] .pdf
Here is SSOW that I had when we went through indoor methods - My reading is don't use the bottom level for trayed Mail

Use of the Porter Trolley
 Pre user visual checks on the trolley to ensure that no sharp of jagged edges are exposed
and that all wheels are operational and that the brakes work when applied. If faults found
they should be reported immediately to your line Manager.
 Brake must be applied when on slopes/uneven surfaces.
 Only four trays can placed on the upper shelf.
 Up to eight empty nested trays can be placed on the lower shelf.
 Full trays must not be placed on the lower shelf.
 Only clear one selection at a time, place the mail directly into the tray.
 Do not exceed the safe working load of the trolley [66.6kg].
 Care must be taken when manoeuvring the trolley to avoid striking others.
 Do not perform Portering for more than 2 continuous hours without having a break.

They read like they could be a waste of time, you're probably better off just using yorks instead

[hampshireman]

Task 47a - DP SSOW IPS Backless FrameTrolley V1.5 Final [R] .pdf
Here is SSOW that I had when we went through indoor methods - My reading is don't use the bottom level for trayed Mail

Use of the Porter Trolley
 Pre user visual checks on the trolley to ensure that no sharp of jagged edges are exposed
and that all wheels are operational and that the brakes work when applied. If faults found
they should be reported immediately to your line Manager.
 Brake must be applied when on slopes/uneven surfaces.
 Only four trays can placed on the upper shelf.
 Up to eight empty nested trays can be placed on the lower shelf.
 Full trays must not be placed on the lower shelf.
 Only clear one selection at a time, place the mail directly into the tray.
 Do not exceed the safe working load of the trolley [66.6kg].
 Care must be taken when manoeuvring the trolley to avoid striking others.
 Do not perform Portering for more than 2 continuous hours without having a break.

They read like they could be a waste of time, you're probably better off just using yorks instead

Agree about a waste of time. I think portering itself is a waste ; adds little value.

The idea is that the 'double prepper' never leaves his/her station and is constantly supplied with mail. The theory being that your exit time will be earlier. And therefore you will be able to complete.

My problem has now become that as RM have

1. Not followed procedure

2. Not trained anyone on the correct procedure

is that I have now had 5 days off work with severe back issues. And I mean severe. Back spasms ; the whole works.

Even collapsing and nearly falling down the stairs.

Do RM have any regard for my Health (or safety). I really don't think so.

Also, if this goes against my sick record then I will be even more unhappy.

Will , hopefully be back at work tomorrow. Will speak to Rep when I get in.

[Chewster]

We've got people portering in our office and I really don't see why. We're all (supposed to be) on IPS until it's all done, so the porters are taking the mail to frames that nobody is on anyway. What's the point? And the double preppers tend to go round and get the mail out of the IPS frame themselves as the porters usually don't get round fast enough. In fact, there's a few duties that the porters don't collect for. Overall it seems a wee bit of a farce. We could get rid of the two porters and thus have an extra two people on IPS, getting things done quicker, and hopefully having the managers moan a bit less about it taking so long

[twoloops]

Portering what donkey thought that job up, we have 3 on portering, they are all a waste of space, time & breath, time the job was scrapped

[oypostie]

We have porters when we have staff

We have porters when we have visitors

[cpsteve]

In our office we dont get enough work to have them double preppers are first out so have plenty of time to get their work. If you have a problem with your back and cant porter tell the manager he/she will get someone else to do it.

[k979aaa]

Portering a TWO man job deemed fit for One man why does it have handles at both ends?

[HTPostman]

I remember being asked to porter when I was in my 1st month in the job. I had no idea what the hell they meant. I didn’t have a clue where half the rounds were, the aisles are too narrow so you’d constantly be having to move York’s and trays out the way. Utter waste of time.

Re: collecting from the back - just how is this meant to work please? There’s one guy on IPS who constantly tells you to collect from the back (unless he’s not on IPS, in which case he ignores his own advice and collects from the front). At our depot we have those bungee chords...so you have to try and hold the tray in one hand, while pulling the bungee chords with the other hand and then getting the mail into the tray. I consider myself physically fit but it causes strain on the arm holding the tray. How do you lot do it?

[Grumpyoldmailman]

How do you lot do it?

By collecting from the front

[Postie45]

Portering what donkey thought that job up, we have 3 on portering, they are all a waste of space, time & breath, time the job was scrapped :arrrghhh

maybe theyre taking the p1ss but ive done portering before, it hurts your back, and is not much fun to do an extra hr + walking before you even go on delivery.