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pickaname · Post by **pickaname** » 16 Oct 2007, 17:01

539 wrote:Its about forty ammendments 23 from the officers and approx 17 from the PEC

So why hasnt it been rejected outright?!

If this is true then what a total farce...

539 · Post by **539** » 16 Oct 2007, 17:07

Pickaname was informed by someone at my division of this have no reason to disbelieve and i think i said roughly what you did.

Thats why its taking so long they are just coming up with a completely different deal to take back to RM!!!!!!!!!!! Well Maybe..............................

Post by **evilc** » 16 Oct 2007, 17:07

Herodotus wrote: My understanding is that flexability to be negotiated at local level!

If that is the case you can kiss goodbye to national agreements.

cruisey · Post by **cruisey** » 16 Oct 2007, 17:07

If the deal can't be rattified then it must be rejected. You don't make amendments. Reject it, tell RM why, then get back on the picket lines until we get a good deal. Feck this namby pamby talky shite

539 · Post by **539** » 16 Oct 2007, 17:10

Herodotus wrote: My understanding is that flexability to be negotiated at local level!

Its true the deal is very specific around flexibility it must be local not area,division or national it talks about local reps managers and staff coming up with their own plan.

postie28 · Post by **postie28** » 16 Oct 2007, 17:10

f*****g ridiculous. if it needs 40 ammendments it must be crap. just reject it and get some more strike dates announced.

chayoliver · Post by **chayoliver** » 16 Oct 2007, 17:13

postie28 wrote:f*****g ridiculous. if it needs 40 ammendments it must be crap. just reject it and get some more strike dates announced.

Say no more

strangler · Post by **strangler** » 16 Oct 2007, 17:14

fatherchristmas wrote:must be one hell of a deal ..... if it takes this long to agree to it.

Better book myself a week off to read it. Must be bigger than War & Peace. Absolutely f***ing mentol. If this ends up rejected and with the strikes now off, we are back to square 1 and no way can I see people in my office tolerating another series of strikes to bail out what amounts to CWU incompetence.

pickaname · Post by **pickaname** » 16 Oct 2007, 17:16

cruisey wrote:If the deal can't be rattified then it must be rejected. You don't make amendments. Reject it, tell RM why, then get back on the picket lines until we get a good deal. Feck this namby pamby talky shite

How do you recover from a highly sucessful yet wasted 48 hour strike though...you think members will go out again for 48? Thought you'd be thinking that...

leelatic · Post by **leelatic** » 16 Oct 2007, 17:35

539 wrote:
Herodotus wrote: My understanding is that flexability to be negotiated at local level!
Its true the deal is very specific around flexibility it must be local not area,division or national it talks about local reps managers and staff coming up with their own plan.

Dictated by senior management to area management and then to the doms,when have they ever let us come up with our own plans?

peedofpostie · Post by **peedofpostie** » 16 Oct 2007, 17:35

bet gordon brown thinks its a good deal lets grab it n shove it up his arse see how he likes it :lfo :cfo

539 · Post by **539** » 16 Oct 2007, 17:36

leelatic wrote:
539 wrote:
Herodotus wrote: My understanding is that flexability to be negotiated at local level!
Its true the deal is very specific around flexibility it must be local not area,division or national it talks about local reps managers and staff coming up with their own plan.
Dictated by senior management to area management and then to the doms,when have they ever let us come up with our own plans?

A fair point.

hotshot · Post by **hotshot** » 16 Oct 2007, 17:39

postie28 wrote:f*****g ridiculous. if it needs 40 ammendments it must be crap. just reject it and get some more strike dates announced.

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Just chuck it out give RM 7 days notice and back on the
picket line thats seems to be the only thing they understand.
:lfo :cfo :cfo :lfo

blackadder · Post by **blackadder** » 16 Oct 2007, 17:44

hotshot wrote:
postie28 wrote:f*****g ridiculous. if it needs 40 ammendments it must be crap. just reject it and get some more strike dates announced.
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Just chuck it out give RM 7 days notice and back on the
picket line thats seems to be the only thing they understand.
:lfo :cfo :cfo :lfo

spot on

Post by **dvbuk55** » 16 Oct 2007, 17:45

blackadder wrote:
hotshot wrote:
postie28 wrote:f*****g ridiculous. if it needs 40 ammendments it must be crap. just reject it and get some more strike dates announced.
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Just chuck it out give RM 7 days notice and back on the
picket line thats seems to be the only thing they understand.
:lfo :cfo :cfo :lfo

spot on

Think we'd better do the wording ourself this time - anyone got a chimp?