frame full of mail not delivered

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

delivering mail in cars all the time ... delivering parcels in cars all the time and even managers delivering specials in their cars all the time is NORMAL in our delivery office.....

I wonder how many of them have got business use on their car insurance, the ones that don't will be in the s**t if they ever get pulled over by the old bill

business use won't cover them either if carrying mail they will need specialised courier insurance but as by gold foxes previous posts he appears to have a complete disregard for the law and h+s anyway so I wouldn't take too much notice of his posts

[Mezza]

Mail left in a frame is not automatically a failure believe it or not, as was pointed out to me on here.
Apparently as long as all reasonable attempts have been made to get the mail out - lapsing, overtime, staff from other offices etc, then it's all ok and well above board.

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

Mail left in a frame is not automatically a failure believe it or not, as was pointed out to me on here.
Apparently as long as all reasonable attempts have been made to get the mail out - lapsing, overtime, staff from other offices etc, then it's all ok and well above board.

It is still reported as a failure though, any mail in a walk frame or
ips frame is reported as a walk failure or part failure, anything still in trays is reported as being unprocessed but any mail still left in the office must be reported

[Mezza]

Mail left in a frame is not automatically a failure believe it or not, as was pointed out to me on here.
Apparently as long as all reasonable attempts have been made to get the mail out - lapsing, overtime, staff from other offices etc, then it's all ok and well above board.

It is still reported as a failure though, any mail in a walk frame or
ips frame is reported as a walk failure or part failure, anything still in trays is reported as being unprocessed but any mail still left in the office must be reported

What i meant was if the items left on hand in the frame were not reported into the DODR then how would they be classed as a failure?

[IcanthelpthewayIam]

Mail left in a frame is not automatically a failure believe it or not, as was pointed out to me on here.
Apparently as long as all reasonable attempts have been made to get the mail out - lapsing, overtime, staff from other offices etc, then it's all ok and well above board.

It is still reported as a failure though, any mail in a walk frame or
ips frame is reported as a walk failure or part failure, anything still in trays is reported as being unprocessed but any mail still left in the office must be reported

What i meant was if the items left on hand in the frame were not reported into the DODR then how would they be classed as a failure?

dom can get sack for not putting items like that in dodr, if he is not putting them into dodr an email to moya is called for

[5plusbonusball]

no mail should be left in ever, sack the managers for not managing.

[Ossie From Preston]

take a photo and email to moya and ask her if this acceptable to leave mail as you have no staff, I bet he doesn't do it again.

That's actually breaking Royal Mail policy taking photos without consent. So beware.

Restrictions on photography and filming
Filming or photography on any Royal Mail Group site, or of Royal Mail Group operations,
could jeopardise the security of our business. Therefore employees are not permitted to:
- Record, film or take photographs on Royal Mail Group premises, or in Royal Mail Group vehicles, without the express prior permission of the site manager or person in control
- Film or distribute materials which could harm our commercial reputation, or cause offence to colleagues. This includes uploading photos or footage to social media sites

http://www.myroyalmail.com/sites/defaul ... ards_1.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

That booklet Business code is misleading or the Courier is one says no photos the other says take them, that was either March or April Courier this year check it out.

[datasaint]

That booklet Business code is misleading or the Courier is one says no photos the other says take them, that was either March or April Courier this year check it out.

More than likely the Courier is wrong. Either way taking photos for your own benefit is different than trying to grass up your DOM which would very easily backfire.

[meercat]

https://www.gov.uk/whistleblowing/what- ... stleblower" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Contrary to this 'you cannot take photos at work' line you actually can and have legal protections as a 'whistleblower' providing what you do is for example in the public interest or protects workers from harm:

'You’re protected by law if you report any of the following:

a criminal offence, eg fraud
someone’s health and safety is in danger
risk or actual damage to the environment
a miscarriage of justice
the company is breaking the law, eg doesn’t have the right insurance
you believe someone is covering up wrongdoing'


So if this left mail was not reported to head office OR attempts were not made to have it delivered on the day you can take photos and report it to the Press/MP/councillor/Moya and rest assured RM would be in big trouble if they gave you any trouble for it.

Having said that, if you can report it anonymously it's the better option!

[97gaz]

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[BarnsleyLackey]

You are no longer required to carry pouches, you should be using a LWT, if you are not, and are caught you can be conduct coded.[/quote]

Conduct code my ass .... carrying bags on shoulders all the time ... delivering mail in cars all the time ... delivering parcels in cars all the time and even managers delivering specials in their cars all the time is NORMAL in our delivery office.....
conduct code ? which planet you are living in mate ... mail delivery come first ..does not matter how ... that's our delivery office and once DOM letting have his own car to postman for delivery ... can you beat that ....??

Bang on.

When you pull your back and need to be off paid sick, then you get conducted.

[Tramp]

Shrug your shoulders and go home. This happens a lot. An unfortunate, yet inevitable result of the latest incarnation of RM Management strategy.

[piranha]

An anonymous email to the press would be a better option I think, let the public know what really goes on behind the PR BS

[TrueBlueTerrier]

An anonymous email to the press would be a better option I think, let the public know what really goes on behind the PR BS

As long as the sender is aware that if identified, either by accident or investigation, they may imperil their future employment. However, if before they do they research "Whistle blowers" legislation and let themselves be guided by it, then this will mitigate some of the possible damage.

In essence don't do anything without checking things out first.

[superports]

What i meant was if the items left on hand in the frame were not reported into the DODR then how would they be classed as a failure?[/quote]

dom can get sack for not putting items like that in dodr, if he is not putting them into dodr an email to moya is called for[/quote]


In our office we had two deliverys left in the frame, next morning manager reported in our huddle there were 34 items DODR