Hi all
As anyone got anymore info on what's happening with this issue?
Or does anyone know when this could come into effect?
Thanks
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WORKING TIME DIRECTIVE – HOLIDAY PAY
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teamtalk
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roobarb1978
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Re: WORKING TIME DIRECTIVE – HOLIDAY PAY
Is there an update to this yet? Will this be included for ex employees or just current cwu staff?
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iceman1277
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Re: WORKING TIME DIRECTIVE – HOLIDAY PAY
any news yetroobarb1978 wrote:Is there an update to this yet? Will this be included for ex employees or just current cwu staff?
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IloveMYredTROLLEY!
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Re: WORKING TIME DIRECTIVE – HOLIDAY PAY
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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/gove ... pay-ruling" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Any word from CWU/RM on this?
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/gove ... pay-ruling" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Any word from CWU/RM on this?
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POSTMAN
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Re: WORKING TIME DIRECTIVE – HOLIDAY PAY
Might have to wait till it's in the daily mirror,that's where the cwu usually get their info from.
I Wrote-During Covid-Which is still relevant now
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
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The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
It's good to get these types of threads, the ridiculous my manager said bollox, so we can reassure ourselves that while the world is falling apart, Royal Mail managers are still being the low-life C***S they have always been.
My BFF Clash
The daily grind of having to argue your case with an intellectual pigmy of a line manager is physically and emotionally draining.
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Re: WORKING TIME DIRECTIVE – HOLIDAY PAY
Notes to editors:IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote:
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Any word from CWU/RM on this?
1.The judge in the recent UK Employment Appeal Tribunal case of Bear Scotland versus Fulton ruled that holiday pay should include non-guaranteed overtime.
2.Non-guaranteed overtime means overtime that employers are not obliged to offer but a worker has to work if it is offered.
I don't see how this case can apply.
Nobody has to work overtime. It is optional and we already have a system in place for SA overtime being paid on holiday.
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Re: WORKING TIME DIRECTIVE – HOLIDAY PAY
but our contract does say overtime is expected to be performed, but they have never enforced it to any degree. It may be a loophole that the CWU are looking to explore.
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Tman
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Re: WORKING TIME DIRECTIVE – HOLIDAY PAY
They (RM) have always said that, but it's unenforceable in reality.
Maybe employees believed it back in the 1970s, but now there's so many rules (largely in the employees favour) that to try and force anyone to do O/T would be a legal minefield.
Maybe employees believed it back in the 1970s, but now there's so many rules (largely in the employees favour) that to try and force anyone to do O/T would be a legal minefield.
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Re: WORKING TIME DIRECTIVE – HOLIDAY PAY
Contractual overtime is quite common, BT has it during bad weather but it has to be very detailed in your contract not a couple woolly lines like ours.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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Tman
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Re: WORKING TIME DIRECTIVE – HOLIDAY PAY
I do contractual O/T on Sundays but it's not on any detailed contract. If you agree to work these attendance hours on this rota then clearly you agree to work the Sundays required as well.
Ad hoc O/T is the issue here and no-one can be forced to work that no matter what some panicking manager may say.
Ad hoc O/T is the issue here and no-one can be forced to work that no matter what some panicking manager may say.
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Mikky
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Re: WORKING TIME DIRECTIVE – HOLIDAY PAY
Agreed,pink panther wrote:Your holiday pay should be based on your annual average pay.
We will probably end up with a settlement from Royal Mail, £50 pro rata or some rubbish which will be accepted.