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motherhubbard
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Re: local agreements

Post by motherhubbard »

dingo wrote:.. every national agreement allows offices to negotiate on some of the issues which impact in their workplace.
So how does the original poster go about renegotiating the election material payment for his office?
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peedofpostie
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Re: local agreements

Post by peedofpostie »

motherhubbard wrote:
dingo wrote:.. every national agreement allows offices to negotiate on some of the issues which impact in their workplace.
So how does the original poster go about renegotiating the election material payment for his office?
We cant its a local agreement tied into a national agreement lol :arrrghhh and our union wont budge as it will upset the majority of its members so we will have to do the same job but for half the money but thats why we pay our subs majority rule ,thanks for all replies and info .
steve1873
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Re: local agreements

Post by steve1873 »

dingo wrote:
hampshireman wrote:The union at conference agreed that we should get a national agreement which did not mean winners and losers and thats what they got. Of course if you were earning nothing you could not go straight up to 6.5 pence but you got higher than you started with.
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I never quite understand what a National Agreement means.

Is it a National Agreement or just a sop for something that whoever can overturn?

And why , if there is a National agreement , why would it be acceptable for people have to 'earn' the right to go up to the agreed level?

Have I missed something (and please correct me if I have)

Is this not still double or even treble standards?


So when the CWU done the deal on the delivery supplement to equalise the payment across the whole delivery workforce which included the then Annual budget for D2D recieved by the workforce and then the whole budget recieved from the pre 0600 allowance paid on a permanent basis in addition to basis pay pro rata. Did everyone jump for joy it had been equalised ? No they did not.

Royal Mail would like to end the payment of election material that's is a fact. It is only the union which stops them.

Let's be clear there are numerous payments which mean offices are different , ex bonus money on a reserved rights basis , ex PHG supplement and over time rate , ex drving allowances , RRIS payments and London Weighting and even Scottish Island allowances.

The union could have equalised the payment by putting it into the delivery supplement but it would increase it by a fraction but it would be paid weekly. However lets be clear the union knows the trouble there would be if it suddenly announced we are going to harmonise the payment.

Every union has different local agreements , the problem is that no national agreement can cater for 1600 different delivery offices and what members perceive as important be that start times , attendance patterns , earnings , ratio of full time part time hence why every national agreement allows offices to negotiate on some of the issues which impact in their workplace.


This doesn't have anything to do with D2D's or the delivery supplement. Why is it acceptable that some areas are receiving 6-9p per item of election material, whereas others are receiving 3p per item?
trythat
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Re: local agreements

Post by trythat »

motherhubbard wrote:
dingo wrote:.. every national agreement allows offices to negotiate on some of the issues which impact in their workplace.
So how does the original poster go about renegotiating the election material payment for his office?
I would ask ADR every time election stuff was due, normally in good time, we did have some upgrade but not been able to get past 4.2p, of course I'm not happy because as others have said, if office's are getting 6.6p why aren't we? They way pressure is being applied to budgets etc, then I don't see us increasing it locally, so it will need CWU HQ to make it the same across the board, same as they did with Delivery supplement.