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aiden01
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Re: june bonus

Post by aiden01 »

Chelseablue wrote:SO once again we just accept being shafted again , like the colleague shares etc ?
come on chelseablue what should we do to oppose this farce? r u staying in union?
borders
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Re: june bonus

Post by borders »

hubbahubba wrote:
Shaders wrote:
Jambomatt1874 wrote:And they expect you to be happy and just get on with the lapsing, I'd have got more than treble that if I hadn't paid my union for the past year!
Stop paying it then, no ones forcing you.
No, £61 isnt a fortune but its something for nothing at the end of the day.
For a lot of people it will make a big difference to their weekly budget.
Something for nothing?Speak for yourself,everytime a duty goes it's not replaced,hasn't been for years.In other words we are working harder to do the same amount of work,hardly nothing... :evil/mad
well at least someone has engaged their brain :Applause
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ewancurze
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Re: june bonus

Post by ewancurze »

The trouble is this £61 just happens to be what comes out of the calcs from the profit,it IS better than nothing (which it could have been) but in this day and age with margins being squeezed it is about what should be expected.
Now what the managers get is another thing entirely.....
2pints
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Re: june bonus

Post by 2pints »

Eveyone moaning about what managers get should just become a manager if they think it is so easy and overpaid.
Budfrog
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Re: june bonus

Post by Budfrog »

The scheme was never ever an 'incentive' scheme as it fails on just about every essential basic characteristic to be classified as such. It is a 'profit sharing' scheme and at £61 a poorly structured one when you consider the amount of Scheduled Attendance and ad-hoc Overtime that has been lost. Now if it were linked to the DOM or Mail Centre Managers' bonuses on a pro-rata basis then you'd be talking ... but that is all pie in the sky, job security and decent T&Cs are far more important.
ewancurze
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Re: june bonus

Post by ewancurze »

2pints wrote:Eveyone moaning about what managers get should just become a manager if they think it is so easy and overpaid.
Who's moaning? Just making an observation,I am not disappointed,it is not too far off what I expected.
Tiddler
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Re: june bonus

Post by Tiddler »

Do posties get a monthly bonus already? I believe that Indoor Workers receive a bonus of around £10 per week for full timers. We receive this bonus plus the Christmas bonus ( do managers receive that?) if you do get these would you give them up for a lump sum annual bonus that aren't guaranteed.
Surreypostie
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Re: june bonus

Post by Surreypostie »

Tiddler wrote:Do posties get a monthly bonus already? I believe that Indoor Workers receive a bonus of around £10 per week for full timers. We receive this bonus plus the Christmas bonus ( do managers receive that?) if you do get these would you give them up for a lump sum annual bonus that aren't guaranteed.

Yes, it is a very very generous bonus to thank us for our efforts. It is called Lapsing, the less time you have the more they try to give you.
ysbrydtawel
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Re: june bonus

Post by ysbrydtawel »

2pints wrote:Eveyone moaning about what managers get should just become a manager if they think it is so easy and overpaid.
This.
The £61 is the result of an agreed percentage of RM's profits this year being split between all CWU grade staff. Managers don't get this bonus, nor do they get a bigger one in its place. We've been given free shares worth thousands of pounds, from which we're about to get a substantial dividend of £104, and we're getting a share of RM's profits too. That's £165 for free in the next month. Plus we get our Christmas bonuses, and regular pay rises thanks to the Union.

Beats stacking shelves at Tesco for minimum wage.
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Budfrog
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Re: june bonus

Post by Budfrog »

2pints wrote:Eveyone moaning about what managers get should just become a manager if they think it is so easy and overpaid.
Just concentrate on your own T&Cs and let others inside and outside of RM worry about theirs ... OPGs who moan about the CWU should try becoming members of the CMA and see where that gets them.
heapsy
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Re: june bonus

Post by heapsy »

TrueBlueTerrier wrote:If we didn't negotiate it, then it was imposed.

Can't see the CWU disagreeing free money, even if it is crumbs from the table.

We should, in my opinion, judge the Union on the results from the negotiations for the new incentive bonus, that will be fairer than blaming them for what RM did. The CWUs mistake, if there was one, was perhaps agreeing to the secrecy behind the bonus, and being a party to having a view of the formula and figures that came up with the £61.

They would have been better off not even being part of it, but then we are in the age of Joint Statements and working together so I suppose it was inevitable. Now they are getting a lot of the flack, some of it misdirected, some of it not.
Good post. Also, try to see the pot half full, not half empty. Higher pay IS the way to go. When people are getting a bit long in the tooth for chasing overtime every day they will be able to look back and reflect. I can remember back in the 90s when I was a full time leave reserve there was a certain duty in our office people loved doing. You got an hour a day Monday to Friday @ 1.45 times hourly rate and an hour @ 2 times hourly rate on Saturday for doing a row of another walk across town. With deductions including union subs I used to come out with about £160 for the week which in those days was 41.5 hours for a full timer. How things have changed. :Very Happy
Bishbashbbosh
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Re: june bonus

Post by Bishbashbbosh »

It's £61 that you wouldn't have otherwise got and people still moan lol
Chelseablue
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Re: june bonus

Post by Chelseablue »

Why wouldnt we otherwise got it?
k979aaa
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Re: june bonus

Post by k979aaa »

Well someone has to pay Moya's 13% pay rise don't they all wonder how her house hunting's going too?
richiebroon
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Re: june bonus

Post by richiebroon »

What will the payment be for someone on a 27 hour contract?