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d2d prep time

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fishtank
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Re: d2d prep time

Post by fishtank »

arnold cheshire wrote:how can it take 9.4 minutes to grab one lot of d2d and bundle them up ?
You're meant to sort them into the frame and it obviously depends on how many calls you have.
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nickinoneck
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Re: d2d prep time

Post by nickinoneck »

And no nesting....as we get told week in and week out.
arnold cheshire
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Re: d2d prep time

Post by arnold cheshire »

nickinoneck wrote:And no nesting....as we get told week in and week out.
we nest every week :nana :nana
celerycelery
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Re: d2d prep time

Post by celerycelery »

fishtank wrote:It's a simple position, like all the other mail on your frame it takes as long as it takes, you prep your frame and then you make the call whether you have enough time to deliver it and if you don't want the overtime use the overrunning deliveries procedure.

Remember any times quoted are resource figures not performance standards and if it takes you 10 minutes longer than the figures quoted as it sometimes does with awkward D2D as long as you aren't taking the piss you shouldn't take any grief for it, If you do see your rep.
If it takes you only 10 mins longer than their ridiculous figures then you need to be congratulated by the manager. There are that many daily factors that aren't counted towards the possibility it will take you longer then doing it all within 10 mins deserves a free coffee :cuppa
IloveMYredTROLLEY!
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Re: d2d prep time

Post by IloveMYredTROLLEY! »

halfull wrote:pegasus on a 80% call rate day-
1/6th per day preptime-
1- 9.4 minutes
2- 13.4 minutes
3- 15.4 minutes
4- 16.4 minutes
5- 17.4 minutes
6- 19.4 minutes.
hope this helps.
If true, why were those figures agreed by the CWU?
A universal measure of time, regardless of number of delivery points on frame and how many of them are "double slotted?"

19mins24secs to prep 6 D2D items? :left: :left: :left: :left: :left: :left: :left:
Try 50-60mins on any frame in my section. And that is throwing them into an empty frame, which speeds things up for D2D (slows down "first wave" sequenced prep), as per revised instructions in our depot at least one year ago.

On the flip-side, 9mins24secs to prep 1 D2D?

It is like they have used a big walk (~ >700 calls) for 1 D2D and a small walk (~ <350) for 6 items.

Somewhere in the official documentation is something about D2D adding <3% to the call rate per day, what a load of giant testicles, another sweeping statement rather than using facts to go with figures on any given day.

How can this company be around for >350 years and base computer model call rates data solely on sequenced trays?
Why hasn't letterbox size been on record for decades, so it is black and white regarding what non-signature parcels will fit through Adam's letterbox at no. 58 Hull Rd?
villan
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Re: d2d prep time

Post by villan »

halfull wrote:pegasus on a 80% call rate day-
1/6th per day preptime-
1- 9.4 minutes
2- 13.4 minutes
3- 15.4 minutes
4- 16.4 minutes
5- 17.4 minutes
6- 19.4 minutes.
hope this helps.
The biggest duties in our office have more than double the number of calls as the smallest duties so there can't be such a thing as a standard prep time for D2Ds. You can always spot those with small duties because they've thrown their D2Ds and mech in well within the allocated time and can be seen standing around chatting or reading the paper while the rest of us toil on.
Sbutts8182
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Re: d2d prep time

Post by Sbutts8182 »

halfull wrote:pegasus on a 80% call rate day-
1/6th per day preptime-
1- 9.4 minutes
2- 13.4 minutes
3- 15.4 minutes
4- 16.4 minutes
5- 17.4 minutes
6- 19.4 minutes.
hope this helps.
How long for 7
NewPostieUK
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Re: d2d prep time

Post by NewPostieUK »

IloveMYredTROLLEY! wrote: Why hasn't letterbox size been on record for decades, so it is black and white regarding what non-signature parcels will fit through Adam's letterbox at no. 58 Hull Rd?
Why aren't all letterboxes the same size, or at least meet a required minimum size?
arnold cheshire
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Re: d2d prep time

Post by arnold cheshire »

Sbutts8182 wrote:
halfull wrote:pegasus on a 80% call rate day-
1/6th per day preptime-
1- 9.4 minutes
2- 13.4 minutes
3- 15.4 minutes
4- 16.4 minutes
5- 17.4 minutes
6- 19.4 minutes.
hope this helps.
How long for 7
made me laugh why the odd differences ?
arnold cheshire
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Re: d2d prep time

Post by arnold cheshire »

Sbutts8182 wrote:
halfull wrote:pegasus on a 80% call rate day-
1/6th per day preptime-
1- 9.4 minutes
2- 13.4 minutes
3- 15.4 minutes
4- 16.4 minutes
5- 17.4 minutes
6- 19.4 minutes.
hope this helps.
How long for 7
made me laugh why the odd differences ?
steve1873
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Re: d2d prep time

Post by steve1873 »

arnold cheshire wrote:
halfull wrote:pegasus on a 80% call rate day-
1/6th per day preptime-
1- 9.4 minutes
2- 13.4 minutes
3- 15.4 minutes
4- 16.4 minutes
5- 17.4 minutes
6- 19.4 minutes.
hope this helps.
how can it take 9.4 minutes to grab one lot of d2d and bundle them up ?
Utterly ridiculous times and sums up this company to a tea!

9 mins to do 1 item, yet to do 6 times as many takes just over double the time!!! :left:
motherhubbard
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Re: d2d prep time

Post by motherhubbard »

steve1873 wrote:
arnold cheshire wrote:
halfull wrote:pegasus on a 80% call rate day-
1/6th per day preptime-
1- 9.4 minutes
2- 13.4 minutes
3- 15.4 minutes
4- 16.4 minutes
5- 17.4 minutes
6- 19.4 minutes.
hope this helps.
how can it take 9.4 minutes to grab one lot of d2d and bundle them up ?
Utterly ridiculous times and sums up this company to a tea!

9 mins to do 1 item, yet to do 6 times as many takes just over double the time!!! :left:
Actually if you do it right then multiple contracts does take twice as long as one.
You only make one prepping motion. The rest of the time is piling them up.
Time is consumed by paper thin D2D or having to prep in double slots. Prepping them first helps.
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Dorset Plodder
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Re: d2d prep time

Post by Dorset Plodder »

Problem in our office is idiots prepping households in their own time! :arrrghhh I appreciate it's easier if you've got your own duty to throw them all off at the beginning of the week and then just take them were you go, as they're all gone by Friday. All I would insist on as a Rep was posties making sure the time taken to throw them off is included in their Prep Time. :thumbup

We had the example of two Posties, one was on holiday the other was on day off, when the Stand In crew returned from the P&L on a Saturday, they'd both been into the Office and thrown off their households ready for the following week! :shock: This must have given RM about 2 hours Free for each Duty!

You can argue that IF you return 20 mins early you can use that time to throw of household (as previously discussed they're classed as Live mail) BUT I think it's ridiculous to use your Meal relief to Prep them. You're just giving time to RM :thumbdown Same with coming in early and throwing them off in your own time. Idiots think they're helping themselves out they're only helping out their DOMs budget. :arrrghhh
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daveyeff
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Re: d2d prep time

Post by daveyeff »

norm wrote:
Hitcher wrote:
bigboy1 wrote:Told no extra time to prep d2ds anymore is this the same in every office
They're already built in to your duty's prep time.
6 D2Ds in my place last week, 120 per day was taking around 25 mins to nest them all and a further 7mins to put them in the frame. Without nesting you could add another 15 mins to that, plus another 20 mins out on delivery filtering through them all.

It's massively underestimated the time they take.
are you saying it only took you 25 mins to nest 6 sets of D2Ds. if you had 120 drops per column then that's 720 D2Ds to nest. that's some prep rate which I find hard to believe. taking into consideration you are pushed for space on you're frame which slows you down. we had 6 last week and it took me 55 mins to prep them and 10-12 mins to throw them in. having said that I had over a thousand to nest and prep.
steve1873
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Re: d2d prep time

Post by steve1873 »

motherhubbard wrote:
steve1873 wrote:
arnold cheshire wrote:
halfull wrote:pegasus on a 80% call rate day-
1/6th per day preptime-
1- 9.4 minutes
2- 13.4 minutes
3- 15.4 minutes
4- 16.4 minutes
5- 17.4 minutes
6- 19.4 minutes.
hope this helps.
how can it take 9.4 minutes to grab one lot of d2d and bundle them up ?
Utterly ridiculous times and sums up this company to a tea!

9 mins to do 1 item, yet to do 6 times as many takes just over double the time!!! :left:
Actually if you do it right then multiple contracts does take twice as long as one.
You only make one prepping motion. The rest of the time is piling them up.
Time is consumed by paper thin D2D or having to prep in double slots. Prepping them first helps.

Nonsense. I can do 1 item, roughly 120 calls in between 3-4 minutes. Are you suggesting it would take just 6-8 minutes to prep 6 items to those same ~120 calls? Because in reality it can take around 20-25 minutes, easily! And I am doing them "right".