Urged To Accept Deal.

P739 · Post by **P739** » 14 Oct 2007, 11:58

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7043754.stm

We will see.

ewen1956 · Post by **ewen1956** » 14 Oct 2007, 12:03

Look forward to the announcement tomorrow with baited breath. Probably be late afternoon by the sound of it!

Post by **dvbuk55** » 14 Oct 2007, 12:10

"But the deal is understood to include reform of the company's pension scheme, a pay rise this year of about 2.5% and changes to long-standing working practices. "

Taken from the Link above - just what is different to the first offer that was ever made? If this IS the deal - for my part it's a NO and they can look forward to more industrial action - but this time it will be wildcat and will cost the Union a fortune - so they'd better get their arse on side.

Big Daz · Post by **Big Daz** » 14 Oct 2007, 13:46

6.9% over 2 years dvbuk55 was on offer and all the signs point to Billy and Dave accepting that offer.

G4GYJ · Post by **G4GYJ** » 14 Oct 2007, 13:59

Why don't people who have never been a postman/woman keep their comments to themselves. They want and come and work in a delivery office and see what shite we have to put up with.
Yes we need to change to take on the other w*****s in the postal market. Yes we must charge said w*****s more money to deliver their mail. Yes we must make sure they are not ripping us off by ensuring they are paying for what they hand to us.
And the biggest change we need to make so this company can move forward is to change the 2 tossers that are running us into the ground. :lfo :cfo

P739 · Post by **P739** » 14 Oct 2007, 14:26

G4GYJ wrote:Why don't people who have never been a postman/woman keep their comments to themselves. They want and come and work in a delivery office and see what shite we have to put up with.
Yes we need to change to take on the other w*****s in the postal market. Yes we must charge said w*****s more money to deliver their mail. Yes we must make sure they are not ripping us off by ensuring they are paying for what they hand to us.
And the biggest change we need to make so this company can move forward is to change the 2 tossers that are running us into the ground. :lfo :cfo

Post by **dvbuk55** » 14 Oct 2007, 14:41

Big Daz wrote:6.9% over 2 years dvbuk55 was on offer and all the signs point to Billy and Dave accepting that offer.

Look again - and look at the time scale. It's 5.4% from NOW until next April then 1.5% and when has the RPI been 1.5% but that isn't the issue here - most people had no qualms about the %age rise.

But 5.4%/ 2 = 2.7% over 12 months + 1.5% for the next 12 months which I make 4.2% over 24 months or 2.1% p.a. or maybe I'm wrong.

pilsbury · Post by **pilsbury** » 14 Oct 2007, 15:00

G4GYJ wrote:Why don't people who have never been a postman/woman keep their comments to themselves. They want and come and work in a delivery office and see what shite we have to put up with.
Yes we need to change to take on the other w*****s in the postal market. Yes we must charge said w*****s more money to deliver their mail. Yes we must make sure they are not ripping us off by ensuring they are paying for what they hand to us.
And the biggest change we need to make so this company can move forward is to change the 2 tossers that are running us into the ground. :lfo :cfo

Nice one, bang on the money.

P739 · Post by **P739** » 14 Oct 2007, 15:01

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid ... b=1&news=1

k979aaa · Post by **k979aaa** » 14 Oct 2007, 15:05

dvbuk55 wrote:
Big Daz wrote:6.9% over 2 years dvbuk55 was on offer and all the signs point to Billy and Dave accepting that offer.
Look again - and look at the time scale. It's 5.4% from NOW until next April then 1.5% and when has the RPI been 1.5% but that isn't the issue here - most people had no qualms about the %age rise.

But 5.4%/ 2 = 2.7% over 12 months + 1.5% for the next 12 months which I make 4.2% over 24 months or 2.1% p.a. or maybe I'm wrong.

Or put it this way 6.9% over 18 month's form now till april 2009 + Â£175 in back pay from now to april 2007 + the 1.5% is dependent on change to pension's & flexibillty.

sean38 · Post by **sean38** » 14 Oct 2007, 16:29

Big Daz wrote:6.9% over 2 years dvbuk55 was on offer and all the signs point to Billy and Dave accepting that offer.

This must have been staged when you think about it, talks take place on friday dave and billy agree with crozie to accept deal,now union have got to think up some idea how to call strike off mon tues whilst they convince us its a good deal,dave says to crozie i know what we will make out we got the figures wrong you go to court and get a high court injunction and we will go from there.(funny how it took rm to friday to get court case)P>S did anyone notice dave and billy shaking hands and laughing with crozier in the foyer When it was shown on news 24 0n friday.

chayoliver · Post by **chayoliver** » 14 Oct 2007, 16:40

F*ck em stay out and show them what were made of, and thak you to all the wild cat if only we all done this we would have won hands down shame on the strike breakers

smokerjim · Post by **smokerjim** » 14 Oct 2007, 16:53

John 'Don't you dare insult me by calling me a socialist' Hutton wrote:"There is no way Royal Mail is going to be successful unless it reforms and changes and becomes as efficient as some of its competitors," he said.

Does that mean we don't have to make anymore deliveries? Oh dear, wotta shame, never mind!

Post by **arsenalbob** » 14 Oct 2007, 17:29

any acceptable deal MUST include keeping final salary pension for existing members and d2d payments. i personally won't be affected by the flexible bollox as i always work to my time whether it's summer winter or tuesdays, i'm just naturally slow and walk about daydreaming of the gooners sweeping all before them this season and other good things

L Tommo · Post by **L Tommo** » 14 Oct 2007, 17:38

I aint being urged to accept ANY DEAL.... I make my own fecking mind up.....

GORDON AND CO.... FECK OFF UP YA SELF!!! AND BIG AL N lil adam.... I urge you to go blow ya brains out. (if you can find microbes?)

BASTARDS...

Now the CWU HQ can ask us nicely if we think its a good deal... If it aint... CHUCK THE FECKING THING BACK AT EM.... NO IS THE ANSWER AND GET US OUT AGAIN PLEASE BILLY N DAVE.,.... DO YOUR JOB WE HAVE PUT YOU FORWARD TO DO, AND YOU GET WELL PAID FOR....

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