Six days a week.

[Bahia Feliz]

I could see it reducing to 5 days a week but it will be Tuesday to Saturday knowing Royal Mail. Let hope CWU will not let this happens.

Tuesdays off all round more like!

[Darren Bent]

It won't work as we like to have a weekend to do things. It will be difficult to make it happens as we will lose floating week off perk plus we lose so many saturdays due to working 6 days.

[fishtank]

How the hell do you expect the CWU to stop RM doing what they want to stay profitable?

It's what we pay our subs for.
It would be profitable to set up another company, transfer you over giving you about 6 months TUPE protection then moving you on to minimum wage...

If we do go to 5 days it's likely to be mon-fri but I can't see it happening like that, If anything we'll still be working 6 days, It's just that customers won't get their mail 6 days a week, more like every second day alternating through areas as TNT do, and there will be a lot less of us.

[POSTMAN]

Don't forget this which 'may' make a difference somewhere along the line,haven't heard anymore on it tho...

Mail centre weekend access
We are trialling weekend customer collections in one of our mail centres - with more to follow

https://www.myroyalmail.com/news/2014/0 ... end-access" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Darren Bent]

I could see the working week will be like that as alternative arrangement.

Monday, Wednesday, Friday -> Delivery Walk A and B and Parcels/special/recorded on Walk C & D with Van loop partner
Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday -> Delivery Walk C and D and Parcels/special/recorded on Walk A & B with Van loop partner

Lapsing will deceased. Then use light duties/spare staff to throw out walk for next day. I could see it happening.

[OnAFlyer]

People are getting worried because of the mail volume on a Tuesday.Talk of EVR Royal Mail laspe think that's the long term answer.

Well if OPGs played a longer game than the idea of gaining a few minutes that day, they might want to think carefully about what bad practices they do which artificially reduces the workload requirements, such as...
Filtering mail for the next delivery point on the move, instead of stationary outside the previous address (easily could be in excess of 2 seconds per call)
Nesting D2D instead of separate items, not only against official policy, but by being separate it means more stationary filtering time
Carrying pouches and using HCTs as mobile bag drops, instead of using delivery method tools (HCT, LWT) correct for the walk in question, (light pouches should only be carried for specific addresses such as for blocks of flats)
Giving addressee 1 minute to answer the door for an attendance call, instead of ~10 seconds before writing out the P739

Today was very light for letters in my office section, but the runners still ran and gave management ammunition to think about extended walks and redundancies, a few of us did the job properly and only finished contract hours 10 mins early (and then did some constructive work until finish time).

How long it takes to do your delivery has bugger all to do with hours being cut. It's all based on traffic and efficiency, ie items per work hour.

An office full of people dragging their feet to exactly finish time every day is still going to lose more hours than an office that is performing more efficiently but the staff are going home early some days.

Our office is efficient, we work flexibly and if you finish early you go home. Because of our efficiency our CWU rep and Dom came to an arrangement where EVERYONE in our office has been given a permanent contract, even the people that started in the last few months. Our Dom told us today that even with the cuts to come nobody in our office will be leaving, and that's because of how we perform.

You can so the job 'correctly' as much as you want (making today's workload last until time is just p*ss taking tbh) but it won't save anyone's job if you aren't performing. That's the harsh reality.

[bustedflush]

I was on L/D today and we had a runner finish at 10:35.....
Yesterday was light, today they may as well have left the mail to add to tomorrows'.
We've got to get one F/T down to P/T apparently. That's our cuts.
Even door-dustbins are either none, 1 or 3 (on a few rounds).

[the dragon]

People are getting worried because of the mail volume on a Tuesday.Talk of EVR Royal Mail laspe think that's the long term answer.

Well if OPGs played a longer game than the idea of gaining a few minutes that day, they might want to think carefully about what bad practices they do which artificially reduces the workload requirements, such as...
Filtering mail for the next delivery point on the move, instead of stationary outside the previous address (easily could be in excess of 2 seconds per call)
Nesting D2D instead of separate items, not only against official policy, but by being separate it means more stationary filtering time
Carrying pouches and using HCTs as mobile bag drops, instead of using delivery method tools (HCT, LWT) correct for the walk in question, (light pouches should only be carried for specific addresses such as for blocks of flats)
Giving addressee 1 minute to answer the door for an attendance call, instead of ~10 seconds before writing out the P739

Today was very light for letters in my office section, but the runners still ran and gave management ammunition to think about extended walks and redundancies, a few of us did the job properly and only finished contract hours 10 mins early (and then did some constructive work until finish time).

How long it takes to do your delivery has bugger all to do with hours being cut. It's all based on traffic and efficiency, ie items per work hour.

An office full of people dragging their feet to exactly finish time every day is still going to lose more hours than an office that is performing more efficiently but the staff are going home early some days.

Our office is efficient, we work flexibly and if you finish early you go home. Because of our efficiency our CWU rep and Dom came to an arrangement where EVERYONE in our office has been given a permanent contract, even the people that started in the last few months. Our Dom told us today that even with the cuts to come nobody in our office will be leaving, and that's because of how we perform.

You can so the job 'correctly' as much as you want (making today's workload last until time is just p*ss taking tbh) but it won't save anyone's job if you aren't performing. That's the harsh reality.

Are you really that naive to think because your DOM has "promised" that there will be no job cuts in your office, then it wont happen ??? The harsh truth is the more you give them, the more they will take!!!

[the dragon]

I could see it reducing to 5 days a week but it will be Tuesday to Saturday knowing Royal Mail. Let hope CWU will not let this happens.

How the hell do you expect the CWU to stop RM doing what they want to stay profitable?

Saturdays are always going to be part of our working week, in our office it's one of our busiest days unfortunately but i knew i would have to work Saturdays when i started working for the company

I also knew that I had to work Saturdays when i joined BUT when I signed my original contract, it was with a 12 noon finish..nowadays it is a 2-30pm finish......big, big difference if you have things to do on a Saturday afternoon

[IloveMYredTROLLEY!]

People are getting worried because of the mail volume on a Tuesday.Talk of EVR Royal Mail laspe think that's the long term answer.

Well if OPGs played a longer game than the idea of gaining a few minutes that day, they might want to think carefully about what bad practices they do which artificially reduces the workload requirements, such as...
Filtering mail for the next delivery point on the move, instead of stationary outside the previous address (easily could be in excess of 2 seconds per call)
Nesting D2D instead of separate items, not only against official policy, but by being separate it means more stationary filtering time
Carrying pouches and using HCTs as mobile bag drops, instead of using delivery method tools (HCT, LWT) correct for the walk in question, (light pouches should only be carried for specific addresses such as for blocks of flats)
Giving addressee 1 minute to answer the door for an attendance call, instead of ~10 seconds before writing out the P739

Today was very light for letters in my office section, but the runners still ran and gave management ammunition to think about extended walks and redundancies, a few of us did the job properly and only finished contract hours 10 mins early (and then did some constructive work until finish time).

How long it takes to do your delivery has bugger all to do with hours being cut. It's all based on traffic and efficiency, ie items per work hour.

An office full of people dragging their feet to exactly finish time every day is still going to lose more hours than an office that is performing more efficiently but the staff are going home early some days.

Our office is efficient, we work flexibly and if you finish early you go home. Because of our efficiency our CWU rep and Dom came to an arrangement where EVERYONE in our office has been given a permanent contract, even the people that started in the last few months. Our Dom told us today that even with the cuts to come nobody in our office will be leaving, and that's because of how we perform.

You can so the job 'correctly' as much as you want (making today's workload last until time is just p*ss taking tbh) but it won't save anyone's job if you aren't performing. That's the harsh reality.

Redundancies and/or bringing in lower weekly contracts has everything to do with how long each of us take to deliver. All the DOM and his/her superior will be concerned about is how many "man hours" they believe the depot needs to be cleared, if as a depot you are condensing each walk's workload by cutting corners, you should be asking yourself how many current jobs are you throwing away and how many more are you throwing away in the future when Amazon and Whistl move into your area.

You really believe your DOM? If he is being really truthful, ask for that promise in writing, in a legal binding document! Your DOM is encouraging you all to race to the bottom and it sounds like you want to play.

[OnAFlyer]

People are getting worried because of the mail volume on a Tuesday.Talk of EVR Royal Mail laspe think that's the long term answer.

Well if OPGs played a longer game than the idea of gaining a few minutes that day, they might want to think carefully about what bad practices they do which artificially reduces the workload requirements, such as...
Filtering mail for the next delivery point on the move, instead of stationary outside the previous address (easily could be in excess of 2 seconds per call)
Nesting D2D instead of separate items, not only against official policy, but by being separate it means more stationary filtering time
Carrying pouches and using HCTs as mobile bag drops, instead of using delivery method tools (HCT, LWT) correct for the walk in question, (light pouches should only be carried for specific addresses such as for blocks of flats)
Giving addressee 1 minute to answer the door for an attendance call, instead of ~10 seconds before writing out the P739

Today was very light for letters in my office section, but the runners still ran and gave management ammunition to think about extended walks and redundancies, a few of us did the job properly and only finished contract hours 10 mins early (and then did some constructive work until finish time).

How long it takes to do your delivery has bugger all to do with hours being cut. It's all based on traffic and efficiency, ie items per work hour.

An office full of people dragging their feet to exactly finish time every day is still going to lose more hours than an office that is performing more efficiently but the staff are going home early some days.

Our office is efficient, we work flexibly and if you finish early you go home. Because of our efficiency our CWU rep and Dom came to an arrangement where EVERYONE in our office has been given a permanent contract, even the people that started in the last few months. Our Dom told us today that even with the cuts to come nobody in our office will be leaving, and that's because of how we perform.

You can so the job 'correctly' as much as you want (making today's workload last until time is just p*ss taking tbh) but it won't save anyone's job if you aren't performing. That's the harsh reality.

Redundancies and/or bringing in lower weekly contracts has everything to do with how long each of us take to deliver. All the DOM and his/her superior will be concerned about is how many "man hours" they believe the depot needs to be cleared, if as a depot you are condensing each walk's workload by cutting corners, you should be asking yourself how many current jobs are you throwing away and how many more are you throwing away in the future when Amazon and Whistl move into your area.

You really believe your DOM? If he is being really truthful, ask for that promise in writing, in a legal binding document! Your DOM is encouraging you all to race to the bottom and it sounds like you want to play.

Who said we were cutting corners? Almost everyone starts on time, everybody is made to take their full breaks, we are no.1 in 1st time delivery in our region, have very few complaints (well below target) and our QOS is well above average.

Most people work their hours, some go under some go over.

Hardly sounds like an office full of people running and cutting corners does it? Race to the bottom? Nope.

As for that costing duties, well as I've already said EVERYBODY in my office has a permanent contract (yes, that IS a legally binding document )and we're an office of nearly 200. Of course we'll have hours taken out as all offices will, but as was listed in that document leaked in here a few weeks ago we're losing pretty much nothing compared to most in our region.

Being an office that performs well has SECURED jobs not cost them. How many times do I have to say it, it's not the time you finish that RM judge their savings on. It's the efficiency, items per work hour that matters. If you have an office that performs below that target then you're losing duties whether you all finish bang on time or not.