Door to Doors.

majeed · Post by **majeed** » 08 Oct 2007, 18:49

mrlovepantsuk wrote:i look at them as an extra Â£1000 a year

With each drop equalling c.Â£20 gross, that averages out at about 1 drop a week: that's okay, I guess.

We just need to get everyone looking out for each other. That's next on the agenda.

bizz · Post by **bizz** » 08 Oct 2007, 19:15

THIS IS HOW I SEE IT...... THERE IS NO WAY THAT WE SHOULD DO THEM AND NOT GET PAID, LETS HAVE IT RIGHT WE HAVNT HAD A RISE ON THEM FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER ( 12 YEARS ). I WOULD TAKE UP TO FIVE SETS IF WE GOT THE FOLLOWING...

1. INCREASE ON PAYMENT ON THEM
2. AS LONG AS THEY WHERE MANAGABLE TO DELIVERY (NO F@@KIN PENS)
3. GOT PAID ON TIME FOR THEM
4. GET RID OF THESE TWO CLOWNS.......... :lfo :cfo

THEY DONT GIVE A DAMN ABOUT ROYAL MAIL OR ITS WORKERS JUST THERE FAT CAT BONUS.........

LOOK AT THERE CV'S FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

majeed · Post by **majeed** » 08 Oct 2007, 19:32

bizz wrote:THIS IS HOW I SEE IT: THERE IS NO WAY THAT WE SHOULD DO D2D AND NOT GET PAID SUFFICIENTLY: LETS HAVE SOME JUSTICE: WE HAVEN'T HAD A RISE FOR DOING D2D'S FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER (THAT'S TWELVE YEARS). I WOULD TAKE UP TO FIVE SETS OF D2D'S IF WE JUST GOT THE FOLLOWING IN RETURN...

1. INCREASE OF PAYMENTS FOR THEM
2. AS LONG AS THEY ARE MANAGEABLE TO DELIVER, E.G. NO AWKWARD OBJECTS, SUCH AS BALLPOINT PENS
3. GOT PAID FOR THEM ON TIME
4. REPLACE THESE TWO :lfo :cfo WITH PEOPLE WHO WILL LISTEN TO US

ALTHOUGH THEY DON'T SEEM TO CARE ENOUGH ABOUT ROYAL MAIL STAFF: THEY STILL SEEM TO GET REWARDED.

LOOK AT THEIR CV'S!

That's the other side of the coin, I guess.

heapsy · Post by **heapsy** » 09 Oct 2007, 22:15

Think the 3 contracts a week is enough myself. They are time consuming to prep, and take up valuable space on your bike and in your bags. The money is handy, but there's a limit to everything. Definitely think we should get paid for ALL we do, not what RM are considering, ie 5 and get paid for 3. They also distort the traffic figures immensely as they are not counted in traffic, which makes a farce of RMs claims on the daily traffic in your office, cos it is 20 higher, if you use the 20% per day rule.

Tony Soprano · Post by **Tony Soprano** » 12 Oct 2007, 19:38

I think posties should be allowed to knock them back if they don't want to do them.
The biggest discrace with D2D's is the pay on them...it's been the same for many years and never rise's - 1.67p (i think).

Tony Soprano · Post by **Tony Soprano** » 12 Oct 2007, 19:43

Also, on D2D subject - since RM have suspended them for 3 weeks, we should all refuse to do them in future unless we get an upgrade in payment for them.
D2D is a big income for RM, so let's f**k them up even more!

max power · Post by **max power** » 12 Oct 2007, 19:43

They are time consuming to prep
but i go to every door anyway so i do them
its an extra Â£20 a week

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 12 Oct 2007, 19:47

Tony Soprano wrote:Also, on D2D subject - since RM have suspended them for 3 weeks, we should all refuse to do them in future unless we get an upgrade in payment for them.
D2D is a big income for RM, so let's f**k them up even more!

Just make them an offer they can't refuse

mrlovepantsuk · Post by **mrlovepantsuk** » 12 Oct 2007, 19:52

Tony Soprano wrote: The biggest discrace with D2D's is the pay on them...it's been the same for many years and never rise's - 1.67p (i think).

i deliver papers and if we get leaflets theyare 25p per 100 so ourpay isnt that bad afterall.

DGP1 · Post by **DGP1** » 12 Oct 2007, 20:02

mrlovepantsuk wrote:
Tony Soprano wrote: The biggest discrace with D2D's is the pay on them...it's been the same for many years and never rise's - 1.67p (i think).
i deliver papers and if we get leaflets theyare 25p per 100 so ourpay isnt that bad afterall.

That's why they end up chucked over hedges, thrown at doors, or not delivered at all, you pay peanuts you get monkeys

majeed · Post by **majeed** » 12 Oct 2007, 21:10

There is a lot of angry feeling in this discussion.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 12 Oct 2007, 23:01

Lets bring back the lurveeee

majeed · Post by **majeed** » 12 Oct 2007, 23:23

Well, Postman, I did try.

Lee246 · Post by **Lee246** » 23 Oct 2007, 11:29

A seperate Royal Mail dept should be set up that deals solely with door to doors, whereas workers are employed solely to deliver them and let them do as many as they want as long as they are getting paid no less than the minimum 1.67p per leaflet. Asking us Posties to deliver umpteen amounts of d2d with the mail along with nil/reduced payment is just not on. I personally find them a pain in the backside, and customers forever moan about them.

smokerjim · Post by **smokerjim** » 23 Oct 2007, 22:00

Lee246 wrote:A seperate Royal Mail dept should be set up that deals solely with door to doors, whereas workers are employed solely to deliver them and let them do as many as they want as long as they are getting paid no less than the minimum 1.67p per leaflet. Asking us Posties to deliver umpteen amounts of d2d with the mail along with nil/reduced payment is just not on. I personally find them a pain in the backside, and customers forever moan about them.

You could employ one person to do the D2Ds for 5 walks - give them 30 hr contracts, pay them the same as us, get them started at 10am when we're all out the door & give them as many D2Ds as RM & the Union like....more money into the Service, more workers ( hopefully more Union members too ) & new jobs created for drivers ( or more work to secure drivers jobs ) - what's not to like? Oh yeah, it's a sensible idea, that requires an investment in an untested idea - two reasons why it will never happen, irrespective of the potential returns