Renationalised scottish r mail .

[dvbuk55]

What happened? Well it was the non-event of the decade. All the pundits declaring it was a "close thing" when in actuality it wasn't because everyone outside of the press corps knew it was a NO.

[simply_the_best]

What happened? Well it was the non-event of the decade. All the pundits declaring it was a "close thing" when in actuality it wasn't because everyone outside of the press corps knew it was a NO.

Salmond basically blamed pensioners for voting No, then YouGov have released this today...





I thought this would have died a death after the inevitable NO vote but the Nat pain is the gift that keeps giving

[Chelseablue]

Plus there's a load of non scots in scotland too, who were very happy to vote no

[dvbuk55]

Plus there's a load of non scots in scotland too, who were very happy to vote no

Poor old jock down the road, maybe as patriotic as any YES voter, didn't get the chance to vote.

[simply_the_best]

Want a laugh...

This makes it even sweeter-

ALEX Salmond was convinced he was on course for a historic referendum win right until the votes were counted, the Daily Record can reveal.

Private polling by a firm of election experts had the First Minister believing he would pull off a shock victory.

The nationalists had employed Canadian voter contact specialists First Contact to conduct secret opinion polling.

And an analysis of their findings by two leading academics in New York said the Yes campaign would win by 54 per cent to 46.

The SNP were widely thought to have the most sophisticated data-modelling system in the UK before the vote.

But it failed to call the referendum right. Salmond was devastated and announced his intention to step down as First Minister within hours .

The false impression caused by their internal polling meant the SNP leadership were confident of winning until the first local authority areas began declaring results early on Friday.

The Yes camp contacted a number of journalists at around 10pm on Thursday and gave details of a planned victory speech by Salmond.

And First Contact were so confident of the result they revealed their 54 per cent Yes prediction to the Canadian press before the votes were counted.

“I believe they’re going to win,” the firmÂ’s Mike O’Neill told the Toronto Star. "I feel pretty confident.”

A senior SNP source last night admitted that expectations of victory were high until the
very end.

“The turnout was so high that it was very unpredictable but we really did believe we had done enough for victory,” the insider said. “The numbers we were getting back from the pollsters were excellent.

“It quickly became clear as the votes were counted that something had gone wrong, but at the start of the night we definitely thought we had
done it.”

Meanwhile, Better Together’s campaign director yesterday claimed Scotland might have voted for independence if unionists had not kept their relentless focus on the economic risks of a Yes vote.

Critics of the anti-independence campaign repeatedly called on them to be more positive. But Blair McDougall defended the tactics by pointing to polling that suggested only 40 per cent of voters would base their decision on an emotional case for the UK.

He told a meeting at the Labour conference: “It would have made people feel nice, but it would have made the 40 per cent who already agree with us feel nice. There was a constant drumbeat to talk about identity, about a sense of belonging, but that was always going to be a core voter strategy.”

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This pleases me greatly.

Nats Disappeared?

[simply_the_best]

Looks like they were hiding the worlds largest oilfield after all




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[simply_the_best]

Newtimes indeed

[Chelseablue]

Wait till Cameron and co go back on there promises as normal .

[dvbuk55]

Well simply, when you look at the result geographically it was a pretty resounding NO.

[dvbuk55]

Wait till Cameron and co go back on there promises as normal .

And? I just can't imagine blue faces and bare backsides making much of an impact in 2014

[simply_the_best]

Wait till Cameron and co go back on there promises as normal .

The Scotland 2012 act that was passed is due to hand over more powers to Holyrood, they were always on the cards but I honestly doubt your average Joe on the street will have much of a clue what that means anyway, plenty Nats don't even realise that Holyrood has full control over health and education.

[Chelseablue]

We shall wait and see,,

[Lounge Lizard]

Wait till Cameron and co go back on there promises as normal .

The Scotland 2012 act that was passed is due to hand over more powers to Holyrood, they were always on the cards but I honestly doubt your average Joe on the street will have much of a clue what that means anyway, plenty Nats don't even realise that Holyrood has full control over health and education.

- and a few are confused between Holyrood and Holywood.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

In Northern Ireland its only 1 L that makes all the difference.

[Tman]

[quote="simply_the_best"][quote="dvbuk55"]
Salmond basically blamed pensioners for voting No, then YouGov have released this today...



Has any survey analysed the results based on religion/sectarian basis?

Gerry Adams (for one) certainly tweeted his disappointment that the vote was a No, and the Orange marchers in Glasgow etc certainly made it very clear they were for a No vote. Seems like there were possibly underlying issues other than just petty nationalism.