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New round but no training

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martinfitz
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Re: New round but no training

Post by martinfitz »

Hello all - first post and probably last :so there

Little anecdote on this subject. Joined RM as part time postie in Jan 2014 - 25 hours per week, 6 month contract, after 30 years in the private sector in fairly senior roles. To say that I was shocked to the core about the way that RM run their business, the style of management and attitude to employees , would be an understatement.

I was fortunate in my early days that I got put on a P & L round with a decent postie. I stayed there for 5 months as the regular postie was long term sick. (v lucky). Made the mistake of taking a summer holiday (although had to fight for that, and threaten to email Moya), came back to be put on a round I'd never seen before, nobody avail to give me a few pointers when I asked, struggled around, finished 90 mins over. Next day, different round, one of the lads was kind enough to give me a few pointers re running order, and parking spots. Next day, another different round, not prepped, no help avail, lino walked away as I remonstrated with him, saying not his problem. When I was ready to go about 90 mins after everybody had left. Office tells me the only vehicle left has a bald tyre - but would be fine if I took it easy :crazy: .

I refused, then lino comes out inspects vehicle, and tries to show me that the tread was legal (it wasn't). He again said not my problem and walked away. I could then feel my hands reaching out strangle this ignorant young Fokker (he'd be about 23) as he walked off. I sat in the van for 5 mins to cool down, then thought bollokks - not taking this. Marched back into the office, and I'm ashamed to say blew my top and used some very industrial and unprofessional language. Needless to say I quit on the spot and never returned, telling the young scrote in time ordered fashion where to stick the mail :Very Happy

Moral of my particular story - the culture, and most of the people that I encountered in my short time at RM, don't give a flying you know what. Any newbies reading this, ensure that you stand up for yourself, challenge everything, and identify the good guys (there are some), because if you don't you'll find it a pretty negative and dispiriting experience. The job for what it's worth is not actually that bad :nana :nana

Good luck to all the good posties, will certainly make a point of looking after my postie from now on - they really do put up with a lot of shiit.


Marty
spiderj
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Re: New round but no training

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Hear hear
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I won
Himaggen
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Re: New round but no training

Post by Himaggen »

Jamesethefirst wrote:I have never come across one frame yet ,in order.
Get them changed then, ignore the duty holder and get it done directly. A new to walk OPG should be able to deliver any walk directly from the tray(s) of sequenced mail. In fact we had a power cut once which made it impossible to prep the frames and the acting DSM made that specific order.
deristrong
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Re: New round but no training

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My training on a new round was to "start on Monday when it's quieter"!
datasaint
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Re: New round but no training

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martinfitz wrote: I sat in the van for 5 mins to cool down, then thought bollokks - not taking this. Marched back into the office, and I'm ashamed to say blew my top and used some very industrial and unprofessional language. Needless to say I quit on the spot and never returned, telling the young scrote in time ordered fashion where to stick the mail :Very Happy
Truth be told though if you'd stuck to your guns about the bald tyre it would have been a bigger hassle for the manager as you were in the right and he'd have to make alternative arrangements. Once you're out the way he just pushes the work + van onto somebody else on OT no big deal.
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Re: New round but no training

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
Whysoslowyehcfc wrote:Err...what's the point of signing for a duty, if youre not going to do it?
Are we now doing away with seniority? Because that's what it sounds like
I predict in 5 to 10 years - picked duties won't exist they'll be assigned - I also think that duties will be a lot more fluid than now and 1 day will be different to the next. Lapsing/Aborbtion is just a forerunner to this.
Do you think that'll be before or after your impending 2010 revision :cuppa
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Re: New round but no training

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its firming up - we may be in a new office within 18 months.
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Re: New round but no training

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:its firming up - we may be in a new office within 18 months.
:hmmmm Probably painted Orange and going out on bikes Teebs :chuckle
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Re: New round but no training

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dvbuk55 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:its firming up - we may be in a new office within 18 months.
:hmmmm Probably painted Orange and going out on bikes Teebs :chuckle

I wouldn't be that surprised if they took over our current building when they do invade us next year. Its placed ideally for old style deliveries - just not P&L.
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Re: New round but no training

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:its firming up - we may be in a new office within 18 months.
:hmmmm Probably painted Orange and going out on bikes Teebs :chuckle

I wouldn't be that surprised if they took over our current building when they do invade us next year. Its placed ideally for old style deliveries - just not P&L.
P&L does have a place in the modern delivery structure BUT it's far from the answer to all RMs ills.