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World class mail jobs? help!
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dvbuk55
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Re: World class mail jobs? help!
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spiderj
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dvbuk55
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Re: World class mail jobs? help!
You don't want it too wet spider it has a tendency to drop offspiderj wrote:Can't beat a soggy biscuit
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Dumpys Rusty Nuts
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That makes perfect sense. So you didn't mention Sue or Moya numerous times in previous statements . I don't want to know her, you obviously do.Brain Fury wrote:If you don't know who she is, how can you accuse me of name dropping? Lies, stupidity and offensiveness all in one post - good even by your standards.Dumpys Rusty Nuts wrote:No idea who she is, maybe you could send me a couple of photo,s.Brain Fury wrote:Just the kind of mature comment I would have expected. I don't suppose you even know who she is do you.Dumpys Rusty Nuts wrote:You keep mentioning this Sue Whalley.Brain Fury wrote:Funny you should say that because that is exactly what Sue Whalley said at the managers conference in March. Well, she wasn't specifically referring to WCM but the recent restructuring has been done with the aim of working in a more pipeline based approachTrueBlueTerrier wrote:The idea behind WCM is a methodology actually proven to work - but mainly on production lines, where people screw the same nut for 1000 identical products all day every day, by improving standardized activities and processes, it aims to eliminate wast.
It might even work in Mail Centres and on indoor stuff, but the spanner in the works is our basic unit is not the same every day and that corrupts it.
Also if I may be so bold the way they do WCM in Royal Mail is completely inappropriate. You don't need pretty pictures and posting simulators that's part of the training world. WCM should be stuff like portering (if done logically), Feeding IPS, plotting the most efficient way to get the mail from the wagon to the sorting area (that includes loading the wagon correctly). Also the biggest clash is that MCs may be doing WCM to their benefit, but they aren't aware that whats more efficient for them, is not necessarily efficient for the rest of the pipeline.
RM basically look at WCM on a unit by unit, or even work area by work area basis, for it to work properly it needs to treat the whole pipeline as one single entity, not separate autonomous ones.
Are you tooling her?
Maybe you just fantasize about posting your peg in her freshly dusted box.
I don't want any with stains on
Its called name dropping, its done by people who think they are more important than they really are,
Regarding lies and offensiveness, that's what managers do/ are every day isn't it?
Or are you that different one, the manager who looks after the lads ,the manager who makes his own decisions, the manager who can see everyone makes a mistake every now and then?
Think we both know the answer.
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Brain Fury
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Re: World class mail jobs? help!
I think it's doubtful that you know or are able to understand anything much so I'll save myself the bother of trying to explain.Dumpys Rusty Nuts wrote:That makes perfect sense. So you didn't mention Sue or Moya numerous times in previous statements . I don't want to know her, you obviously do.Brain Fury wrote:If you don't know who she is, how can you accuse me of name dropping? Lies, stupidity and offensiveness all in one post - good even by your standards.Dumpys Rusty Nuts wrote:No idea who she is, maybe you could send me a couple of photo,s.Brain Fury wrote:Just the kind of mature comment I would have expected. I don't suppose you even know who she is do you.Dumpys Rusty Nuts wrote:You keep mentioning this Sue Whalley.Brain Fury wrote:Funny you should say that because that is exactly what Sue Whalley said at the managers conference in March. Well, she wasn't specifically referring to WCM but the recent restructuring has been done with the aim of working in a more pipeline based approachTrueBlueTerrier wrote:The idea behind WCM is a methodology actually proven to work - but mainly on production lines, where people screw the same nut for 1000 identical products all day every day, by improving standardized activities and processes, it aims to eliminate wast.
It might even work in Mail Centres and on indoor stuff, but the spanner in the works is our basic unit is not the same every day and that corrupts it.
Also if I may be so bold the way they do WCM in Royal Mail is completely inappropriate. You don't need pretty pictures and posting simulators that's part of the training world. WCM should be stuff like portering (if done logically), Feeding IPS, plotting the most efficient way to get the mail from the wagon to the sorting area (that includes loading the wagon correctly). Also the biggest clash is that MCs may be doing WCM to their benefit, but they aren't aware that whats more efficient for them, is not necessarily efficient for the rest of the pipeline.
RM basically look at WCM on a unit by unit, or even work area by work area basis, for it to work properly it needs to treat the whole pipeline as one single entity, not separate autonomous ones.
Are you tooling her?
Maybe you just fantasize about posting your peg in her freshly dusted box.
I don't want any with stains on
Its called name dropping, its done by people who think they are more important than they really are,
Regarding lies and offensiveness, that's what managers do/ are every day isn't it?
Or are you that different one, the manager who looks after the lads ,the manager who makes his own decisions, the manager who can see everyone makes a mistake every now and then?
Think we both know the answer.
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spiderj
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Re: World class mail jobs? help!
Yes but the fun is trying to catch itdvbuk55 wrote:You don't want it too wet spider it has a tendency to drop offspiderj wrote:Can't beat a soggy biscuit
I won
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Dumpys Rusty Nuts
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Re: World class mail jobs? help!
Typical management speak.Brain Fury wrote:I think it's doubtful that you know or are able to understand anything much so I'll save myself the bother of trying to explain.Dumpys Rusty Nuts wrote:That makes perfect sense. So you didn't mention Sue or Moya numerous times in previous statements . I don't want to know her, you obviously do.Brain Fury wrote:If you don't know who she is, how can you accuse me of name dropping? Lies, stupidity and offensiveness all in one post - good even by your standards.Dumpys Rusty Nuts wrote:No idea who she is, maybe you could send me a couple of photo,s.Brain Fury wrote:Just the kind of mature comment I would have expected. I don't suppose you even know who she is do you.Dumpys Rusty Nuts wrote:You keep mentioning this Sue Whalley.Brain Fury wrote:Funny you should say that because that is exactly what Sue Whalley said at the managers conference in March. Well, she wasn't specifically referring to WCM but the recent restructuring has been done with the aim of working in a more pipeline based approachTrueBlueTerrier wrote:The idea behind WCM is a methodology actually proven to work - but mainly on production lines, where people screw the same nut for 1000 identical products all day every day, by improving standardized activities and processes, it aims to eliminate wast.
It might even work in Mail Centres and on indoor stuff, but the spanner in the works is our basic unit is not the same every day and that corrupts it.
Also if I may be so bold the way they do WCM in Royal Mail is completely inappropriate. You don't need pretty pictures and posting simulators that's part of the training world. WCM should be stuff like portering (if done logically), Feeding IPS, plotting the most efficient way to get the mail from the wagon to the sorting area (that includes loading the wagon correctly). Also the biggest clash is that MCs may be doing WCM to their benefit, but they aren't aware that whats more efficient for them, is not necessarily efficient for the rest of the pipeline.
RM basically look at WCM on a unit by unit, or even work area by work area basis, for it to work properly it needs to treat the whole pipeline as one single entity, not separate autonomous ones.
Are you tooling her?
Maybe you just fantasize about posting your peg in her freshly dusted box.
I don't want any with stains on
Its called name dropping, its done by people who think they are more important than they really are,
Regarding lies and offensiveness, that's what managers do/ are every day isn't it?
Or are you that different one, the manager who looks after the lads ,the manager who makes his own decisions, the manager who can see everyone makes a mistake every now and then?
Think we both know the answer.
You cannot answer it you will make yourself look silly, if that's possible.
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: World class mail jobs? help!
Less of making it personal Dumpy Rusty Nuts - you are just confirming the stereotype.
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