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halfull
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Re: SA's collections may soon be gone!

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123456 wrote:be under no illusion jobs will go in many,many areas..think bad news, and x by 10..
posts like this confuse me,
this kind of talk is so throw away, like when people say the world will end soon just you watch! but they never say how or when lol.
its sounds so scary & dark! Tell us how the jobs will go,when they will go, how the job will change & how it will be 10x worse than all of that. :cuppa
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halfull wrote:
123456 wrote:be under no illusion jobs will go in many,many areas..think bad news, and x by 10..
posts like this confuse me,
this kind of talk is so throw away, like when people say the world will end soon just you watch! but they never say how or when lol.
its sounds so scary & dark! Tell us how the jobs will go,when they will go, how the job will change & how it will be 10x worse than all of that. :cuppa
oh dear!! keep your eyes shut tight and keep saying its not gonna happen isnt going to help..not even fully privatised yet,if you cant see dark clouds gathering,then your on your own.ask who has faith in moya and co.jeez what part of royal mail do you work in..you sound very optimistic...dont know how many people are with you. :whistle
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Lots of volunteers for VR out there and the union Know this so are not kicking up a fuss.
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Re: SA's collections may soon be gone!

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123456 wrote:
halfull wrote:
123456 wrote:be under no illusion jobs will go in many,many areas..think bad news, and x by 10..
posts like this confuse me,
this kind of talk is so throw away, like when people say the world will end soon just you watch! but they never say how or when lol.
its sounds so scary & dark! Tell us how the jobs will go,when they will go, how the job will change & how it will be 10x worse than all of that. :cuppa
oh dear!! keep your eyes shut tight and keep saying its not gonna happen isnt going to help..not even fully privatised yet,if you cant see dark clouds gathering,then your on your own.ask who has faith in moya and co.jeez what part of royal mail do you work in..you sound very optimistic...dont know how many people are with you. :whistle
im in delivery, the job will change yes, i must change with it i know this & i will!
Aslong as they pay my wages im happy, if you are not happy with the job now or in the future nobody is holding you hostage, i hear tnt are employing!
We will be fine, dont keep stressing!
virgin,sky,bt,tescali,......... all do the same thing & continiue to make profit & pay wages, they just have to change the way the work & draw customers in. Can you see where im going with my examples?
Royalmail are a huge player in the market of delivery! We are in as safe as job as anyone i know!
90% of my friends & family have lost jobs or money in the past 5 years due to the recession, we have not lost one day in wages, not many can say that!
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like i said on a previous thread s/a stopped,overtime stopped, duty content changed,talk of duty times changed,machines not running on certain shifts,mail centers looking to move in on other mail centers work,changes in shift plan.m/c closures,delivery offices being housed together.some positives may come out of it,and change is not all bad,but to think we arent going to be on the end of a good kicking is naive. :cuppa
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halfull wrote:
123456 wrote:
halfull wrote:
123456 wrote:be under no illusion jobs will go in many,many areas..think bad news, and x by 10..
posts like this confuse me,
this kind of talk is so throw away, like when people say the world will end soon just you watch! but they never say how or when lol.
its sounds so scary & dark! Tell us how the jobs will go,when they will go, how the job will change & how it will be 10x worse than all of that. :cuppa
oh dear!! keep your eyes shut tight and keep saying its not gonna happen isnt going to help..not even fully privatised yet,if you cant see dark clouds gathering,then your on your own.ask who has faith in moya and co.jeez what part of royal mail do you work in..you sound very optimistic...dont know how many people are with you. :whistle
im in delivery, the job will change yes, i must change with it i know this & i will!
Aslong as they pay my wages im happy, if you are not happy with the job now or in the future nobody is holding you hostage, i hear tnt are employing!
We will be fine, dont keep stressing!
virgin,sky,bt,tescali,......... all do the same thing & continiue to make profit & pay wages, they just have to change the way the work & draw customers in. Can you see where im going with my examples?
Royalmail are a huge player in the market of delivery! We are in as safe as job as anyone i know!
90% of my friends & family have lost jobs or money in the past 5 years due to the recession, we have not lost one day in wages, not many can say that!
well like i say no one knows how things will play out and your examples are fair enough.i have been with royal mail group for over 28 years so the thoughts of leaving are truly terrifying...lol.we all want job stability and you would always say you get that at royal mail,but us old uns are sceptical that this company can continue to deliver that on a full time basis.i hope your right my friend. :Very Happy
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123456 wrote:like i said on a previous thread s/a stopped,overtime stopped, duty content changed,talk of duty times changed,machines not running on certain shifts,mail centers looking to move in on other mail centers work,changes in shift plan.m/c closures,delivery offices being housed together.some positives may come out of it,and change is not all bad,but to think we arent going to be on the end of a good kicking is naive. :cuppa
sa overtime/other overtime can be stopped at anytime, if people are depending on overtime they are living above there means.
Like my grandad once told me many years ago- dont have or do anything you cannot afford, pretty good advise!
Our basic wage has gone up not down!
We have not lost one penny in basic wages while others have lost their job & homes!
If the job changing is what your real problem is then you are with the rest of us, but like i have said, we can all walk away at anytime if we feel their is something better out there(including myself) but not many of us do!
I feel happy in the fact that the company i work for has made 1 billion in profit in the last 24 months, so it cant all be bad lol.
man utd, chelsea, man city,arsenal, real madrid,Barcelona are all huge franchises & none of them make that kind of profit but nobody is predicting they are going to go bust! :chuckle
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halfull wrote:man utd, chelsea, man city,arsenal, real madrid,Barcelona are all huge franchises & none of them make that kind of profit but nobody is predicting they are going to go bust! :chuckle
Although they are all heavily in debt and reliant on TV money and / or rich benefactors that may not always be there.
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One Billion Profit??
I have looked at Royal Mail accounts at Companies House so please explain this over a Billion profit in two years please???
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gluteus maximus wrote:One Billion Profit??
I have looked at Royal Mail accounts at Companies House so please explain this over a Billion profit in two years please???
Royal Mail's annual operating profits have jumped by 12 per cent to £671m, from £598m a year ago. The company, which was listed in a historic privatisation last October, announced its first full-year set of results today since floating on the stock market.
This is off a financial webstite. Also if you just simply google royal mail profits its all over the internet you know! On the sky news website,bbc news website! most of them have us making around the 450-500 million mark both the past 2 years!
And if you plus those 2 figures together it gives you 1 billion! Weird isnt it! :arrrghhh
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Those are not profits, now give the true figure minus tax and operating costs
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gluteus maximus wrote:Those are not profits, now give the true figure minus tax and operating costs
that is the figure minus tax and operating costs, the whole figure is somewhere around 5 billion in operating revenue if i remember, and the 500 million this year is whats left when all the wages,taxes operating costs etc are deducted.
If i remember right they sent us a letter with all this information in when they released the financial results.
We made 430 million last year in profit up 6.7% from the year before!
Google it!
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334 Million profit after operating costs March 2012 to march 2013
430 million profits after operating costs 2013-2014

Total operating profits for 24 months 764 Million

Declared at companies house
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ive read 403m 12-13
430m 14-5
total 833m

ive also read 440 12-13
507 13-14
total 947

however you look at it its close to 1 billion in profit which is huge.
even if your figure 764 is right would you not agree that is a huge amount of profit?
or are you still confused on the difference between operating profits & overall operating revenue?
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with profits like that why sell us the treasury could have claimed a big ammount :shock: