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lovejoy · Post by **lovejoy** » 11 Oct 2007, 15:31

PEC are still considering offer.

Royal Mail have stated that if no agreement is made by the next IA date then they will withdraw from talks permanently.

Ward and Hayes are back in talks with Crozier and co at the TUC tonight.

Last night Brown put massive pressure on both sides to sort dispute.

Will let out more if/when i find out

Rommagic · Post by **Rommagic** » 11 Oct 2007, 15:34

LoveJoy is this true?

From a post

The new proposed deal is this: i know this because i asked RM operations exactly what was being tabled:

5.4% on basic pay from October 2007 taking full time national basic pay from Â£324.92 per week to Â£342.46.
1.5% on basic pay in April 2008 (on condition agreement on pension reform, change and flexibility is reached)
Which means 347.60 basic

So 6,9% over two years.

If all agreed, a lump sum of Â£175 in October sometime. Plus the usual productivity scheme, Colleague shares etc. - which amount to pennies on the grand scale of things.

Wild Rover · Post by **Wild Rover** » 11 Oct 2007, 15:34

This is the offer:

The new proposed deal is this: i know this because i asked RM operations exactly what was being tabled:

5.4% on basic pay from October 2007 taking full time national basic pay from Â£324.92 per week to Â£342.46.
1.5% on basic pay in April 2008 (on condition agreement on pension reform, change and flexibility is reached)
Which means 347.60 basic

So 6,9% over two years.

If all agreed, a lump sum of Â£175 in October sometime. Plus the usual productivity scheme, Colleague shares etc. - which amount to pennies on the grand scale of things.

Copied from a different topic..the CWU better not touch this with a barge pole.

lovejoy · Post by **lovejoy** » 11 Oct 2007, 15:36

Rommagic wrote:LoveJoy is this true?

From a post

The new proposed deal is this: i know this because i asked RM operations exactly what was being tabled:

5.4% on basic pay from October 2007 taking full time national basic pay from Â£324.92 per week to Â£342.46.
1.5% on basic pay in April 2008 (on condition agreement on pension reform, change and flexibility is reached)
Which means 347.60 basic

So 6,9% over two years.

If all agreed, a lump sum of Â£175 in October sometime. Plus the usual productivity scheme, Colleague shares etc. - which amount to pennies on the grand scale of things.

yes thats what i'm hearing mate!!

Post by **evilc** » 11 Oct 2007, 15:37

Rommagic wrote:LoveJoy is this true?

From a post

The new proposed deal is this: i know this because i asked RM operations exactly what was being tabled:

5.4% on basic pay from October 2007 taking full time national basic pay from Â£324.92 per week to Â£342.46.
1.5% on basic pay in April 2008 (on condition agreement on pension reform, change and flexibility is reached)
Which means 347.60 basic

So 6,9% over two years.

If all agreed, a lump sum of Â£175 in October sometime. Plus the usual productivity scheme, Colleague shares etc. - which amount to pennies on the grand scale of things.

Still less than the managers got.

spiderwoods · Post by **spiderwoods** » 11 Oct 2007, 15:37

What about the door to doors, they make up our money and nobody seems to be mentioning these.

Rommagic · Post by **Rommagic** » 11 Oct 2007, 15:38

We won't accept this deal.More Strikes then

pickaname · Post by **pickaname** » 11 Oct 2007, 15:42

Well Leighton and Crozier have threatened to withdraw from talks permanently if this isnt accepted so lets hope Hayes et al dont bottle it like Brown...

Theres no chance the workers will accept this...if the CWU accept this they will trigger Unoffical IA all over...

Perhaps this is what RM want so they can break the strike by calling it unlawful....crafty f***ers.

Post by **ade@cambs** » 11 Oct 2007, 15:44

Talks start at 5pm

tyconuk · Post by **tyconuk** » 11 Oct 2007, 15:45

Leighton and Crozier have threatened to withdraw from talks permanently, not a chance that the government will let this happen!
For a start these two feckers have been nowhere near ALL the talks!
It's still got too go too the vote!
And if its s**t then we vote NO

PostfromNotts · Post by **PostfromNotts** » 11 Oct 2007, 15:46

Stormproof · Post by **Stormproof** » 11 Oct 2007, 15:47

News 24 said Crozier has turned up for the talks

pickaname · Post by **pickaname** » 11 Oct 2007, 15:49

Forwarded above jpeg to adam.crozier@royalmail.com

meweavy · Post by **meweavy** » 11 Oct 2007, 15:49

spiderwoods wrote:What about the door to doors, they make up our money and nobody seems to be mentioning these.

apparently door to doors have been pulled out of talks,which means they will be left alone,but that was from our doms mouth.which you can believe the opposite really.

cruisey · Post by **cruisey** » 11 Oct 2007, 15:50

RM throwing the rattle out of the pram again. Bullying tactics telling the union they will withdraw from talks if we don't agree.
Brown and Darling should take a leaf out of the the french governments book and bail out the pension hole. The government let RM take the holiday (albeit a tory one), they should fund the deficit.
The only deal i would accept: 7.3% backdated to april 07, it's worth more than the lump sum on offer; removal of flexibility package until the Big Deal on change is fully negotiated; set aside collegue shares money built into basic pay in the future, no one wants lump sums; pension hole filled by the government, 100% of any agreed efficiency savings as long as the targets are realistic and not RM's slash and burn approach. Next pay deal in april 09 to include 50% of savings made from automation, plus inflation basic increase.
Otherwise it's a no deal and back on the picket lines until we squeeze the bastards dry.