Van checks

[Lounge Lizard]

I've been given a drivers manual and a form to sign to say I have read it. I don't have time to read it, rarely complete my duty let alone read a book and I'm not reading it in my time.

your working hours are time to read it. Refuse to sign it unless you are given duty time to read and understand it, if that means cutting off and bringing more mail back then so be it. It would be foolish to sign for something you havent read.

Quite agree, I haven't read it and am not prepared to sign anything to say I have, that is my point. I'm quite looking forward to the have your say thing, we are forced into the canteen to fill it in, I am planning on sitting there as long as possible giving every answer lots of consideration.

I don't mind signing that I've read dozens of pages of the Drivers Manual or anything else but it's wrong for us to have to sign that we have read AND UNDERSTAND it.
Even if we had understood it all at the time of reading, which is unlikely, there's practically no chance that we've remembered and still understand it several months later.

[hantsman]

I've been given a drivers manual and a form to sign to say I have read it. I don't have time to read it, rarely complete my duty let alone read a book and I'm not reading it in my time.

your working hours are time to read it. Refuse to sign it unless you are given duty time to read and understand it, if that means cutting off and bringing more mail back then so be it. It would be foolish to sign for something you havent read.

Quite agree, I haven't read it and am not prepared to sign anything to say I have, that is my point. I'm quite looking forward to the have your say thing, we are forced into the canteen to fill it in, I am planning on sitting there as long as possible giving every answer lots of consideration.

You cannot be forced to fill it in.

[Caniel]

Instead of relying on the front of the log book I would suggest that you ensure as drivers that you have all read and understood, (and preferably carry), the Royal Mail Drivers Manual. Pages 16 to 29 instead of just a listing what to check expand upon those and show the difference between Duty, Daily and Weekly Checks.

I must be the only driver that has one of these in my office, I keep it on me and carry it in the van when I do my delivery or collections later. Not sure if it's changed but mine is a small A5 sized folder, you filled out your personal details in one of the front pages and it contains everything you need to know, it's like a bible for RM drivers and everyone should be issued one.

[Himaggen]

I Not sure if it's changed but mine is a small A5 sized folder, you filled out your personal details in one of the front pages and it contains everything you need to know, it's like a bible for RM drivers and everyone should be issued one.

The current version, as far as I'm aware, of the "drivers manual Your guide to driving for Royal Mail" is a 208 page paperback offering, approximately A5 in size. It has, as you said, a personal notes section on page two for your details etc and several example forms in the appendices. Its details apply to all operational drivers, whether directly or indirectly employed by Royal Mail and to all vehicles, whether owned or hired.

[The_Wax_Man]

Van checks in our place consist of moving the empty sandwhich wrappers and fruit skins from the passenger seat to the floor

F'king disgusting and a lot of lazy asses

Aside from that _ I would take a big grievance with RM on a lot of the fleet. - They keep banging on about driver training and safety but insist on fitting crap tyres to the fleet.

I'd suggest if any of your fleet has these tyres on, you demand they be changed !!!


As a summary - A = very good fuel rating / and grip rating.

The worst you can get is F rating.

RM are fitting the below tyres on the daily fleets.

[Budfrog]

These tyres definitely compromise Health & Safety and demonstrate Royal Mail's lack of commitment to it when it comes to actually spending some money, I'm sure that these budget models are legal however much safer models are available and it is hypocritical to cut corners in this area when so much money is being literally thrown at WCM.

Do they fit the same models to the DSM's Merc/BMW/Jag ????