50% less mail this week

[Bahia Feliz]

We got told yesterday that TNT are starting deliveries on the 24th March and that most of our sequenced mail will be gone, in the next breath we were asked if anyone wanted a buy down, they're also offering VR.

Worrying times ahead.

Are you London or Manchester area?

[robbym]

We got told yesterday that TNT are starting deliveries on the 24th March and that most of our sequenced mail will be gone, in the next breath we were asked if anyone wanted a buy down, they're also offering VR.

Worrying times ahead.

Are you London or Manchester area?

Liverpool.

[Bahia Feliz]

We got told yesterday that TNT are starting deliveries on the 24th March and that most of our sequenced mail will be gone, in the next breath we were asked if anyone wanted a buy down, they're also offering VR.

Worrying times ahead.

Are you London or Manchester area?

Liverpool.

Oh,TNT are spreading then!

[5plusbonusball]

can i have a transfer to there then , then take the vr

[Darren Bent]

Probably because Mon-Fri delivery would mean 1 in 6 staff losing their jobs. It would be great for those left (I can only dream of getting every weekend off) but not something the CWU is ever going to endorse - quite the opposite.

I'm sure they could get 1/5th of the workforce to go under evr or redundancy.

20 000 lost jobs at about £40 000 each.
That would be a massive financial undertaking. Can't see RM going for that one.

That would be 80 millions pounds decision and Don't think Royal Mail can justify spending that much.

[SpacePhoenix]

If anything I think within 3 years RM will have to start doing Mon-Sun delivery, as other courier firms have started doing Sunday delivery

[pj2001]

Why all the doom and gloom? Royal Mail have the network to deal with dso items end to end, all they need to do is seriously undercut TNT to shut them down, watch this space.

[bluealbert]

Why all the doom and gloom? Royal Mail have the network to deal with dso items end to end, all they need to do is seriously undercut TNT to shut them down, watch this space.

agree mate

[SpacePhoenix]

Why all the doom and gloom? Royal Mail have the network to deal with dso items end to end, all they need to do is seriously undercut TNT to shut them down, watch this space.

Probably most of the DSA stuff is the sort of things that used to go MS2 or MS3, so if RM is going to win some of the contracts back, they're going to have to make deliveries take out all MS3, every day, including Sunday.

[OnAFlyer]

Probably because Mon-Fri delivery would mean 1 in 6 staff losing their jobs. It would be great for those left (I can only dream of getting every weekend off) but not something the CWU is ever going to endorse - quite the opposite.

I'm sure they could get 1/5th of the workforce to go under evr or redundancy.

20 000 lost jobs at about £40 000 each.
That would be a massive financial undertaking. Can't see RM going for that one.

That would be 80 millions pounds decision and Don't think Royal Mail can justify spending that much.

It's a very rough calculation, but only delivering 5 days per week would save RM several hundred million £ every year. For a start they would save more than £80m just in posties wages, then there is a massive drop in pension contributions, energy bills, managers and DOMs wages, fuel for vans etc etc.

A one-off £80-£100m payment when you are going to recoup that in less than a year is a no-brainer for any business.

[SpacePhoenix]

Probably because Mon-Fri delivery would mean 1 in 6 staff losing their jobs. It would be great for those left (I can only dream of getting every weekend off) but not something the CWU is ever going to endorse - quite the opposite.

I'm sure they could get 1/5th of the workforce to go under evr or redundancy.

20 000 lost jobs at about £40 000 each.
That would be a massive financial undertaking. Can't see RM going for that one.

That would be 80 millions pounds decision and Don't think Royal Mail can justify spending that much.

It's a very rough calculation, but only delivering 5 days per week would save RM several hundred million £ every year. For a start they would save more than £80m just in posties wages, then there is a massive drop in pension contributions, energy bills, managers and DOMs wages, fuel for vans etc etc.

A one-off £80-£100m payment when you are going to recoup that in less than a year is a no-brainer for any business.

And how many millions would they loose from loosing contracts from customers who want Saturday deliveries (and maybe eventually even Sunday deliveries)?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

Why all the doom and gloom? Royal Mail have the network to deal with dso items end to end, all they need to do is seriously undercut TNT to shut them down, watch this space.

Nice Theory pity its against the law

Its called Access Headroom and put legislation in that limits how much Royal Mail can charge the DSA Companies, and what prices Royal Mail can offer to potential clients without it being "unfair" to our Competitors.

[Budfrog]

If anything I think within 3 years RM will have to start doing Mon-Sun delivery, as other courier firms have started doing Sunday delivery

That just about sums up how quickly RM responds to changes in the market ... how about RM leading innovation for a change, to reward the shareholder you first need to look after your customers (consignors and recipients).

[OnAFlyer]

It's a very rough calculation, but only delivering 5 days per week would save RM several hundred million £ every year. For a start they would save more than £80m just in posties wages, then there is a massive drop in pension contributions, energy bills, managers and DOMs wages, fuel for vans etc etc.

A one-off £80-£100m payment when you are going to recoup that in less than a year is a no-brainer for any business.

And how many millions would they loose from loosing contracts from customers who want Saturday deliveries (and maybe eventually even Sunday deliveries)?

I was replying to the guy who said RM wouldn't pay out £80m in redundancy if it ever switched to a 5 day delivery. £80m would be pennies compared to what they'd save.

I can't see RM losing anything other than a few larger packets, nobody else could ever afford to run a countrywide letter/small packet delivery service for the same costs as RM.

[ihatedogs]

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