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10% lapsing nationwide
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Hitcher
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10% lapsing nationwide
Didn't see that coming straight after the deal got voted in did we! 
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fishtank
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Re: 10% lapsing nationwide
Have you got any evidence that this is a nationwide policy?Hitcher wrote:Didn't see that coming straight after the deal got voted in did we!
I'm not questioning you, just your source. If you have flag it up to your branch, In fact send it on to Bob at bgibson@cwu.org
It might just be some local manager talking shite, it happens..
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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Hitcher
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Re: 10% lapsing nationwide
No printed evidence but that's what we were told yesterday by management and I also spotted someone else confirm this on Facebook.
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deltaforce
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Re: 10% lapsing nationwide
It seems like they are using these work load / resourcing tools ..they pump in the forecast figures and Hey presto, we've all got spare capacity.
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halfull
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Re: 10% lapsing nationwide
what a surprise,delivery being targeted again, well done everybody who voted yes in delivery. enjoy the new workload 
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arnold cheshire
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Re: 10% lapsing nationwide
why do you say that? cut off and stand up for yourselfhalfull wrote:what a surprise,delivery being targeted again, well done everybody who voted yes in delivery. enjoy the new workload
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gand
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Re: 10% lapsing nationwide
Agree. who cares what workload they give you its a 39 hour week simplebringon4dayweeks wrote:why do you say that? cut off and stand up for yourselfhalfull wrote:what a surprise,delivery being targeted again, well done everybody who voted yes in delivery. enjoy the new workload
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chrisj
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Re: 10% lapsing nationwide
I am sure halfull as a Union Rep and perhaps experienced staff can look after himself... And it is not 39 hours for everyone.
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dvbuk55
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Re: 10% lapsing nationwide
Not for those on 20, 25, 30 hours it isn't, they have them by the short back and sides if they want to earn a livinggand wrote:Agree. who cares what workload they give you its a 39 hour week simplebringon4dayweeks wrote:why do you say that? cut off and stand up for yourselfhalfull wrote:what a surprise,delivery being targeted again, well done everybody who voted yes in delivery. enjoy the new workload
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CLINTEASTWOOD1
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Re: 10% lapsing nationwide
Hello
I dont think this is true the only time you can lapse is when the IWT shows it. There is no 10% across the board.
I dont think this is true the only time you can lapse is when the IWT shows it. There is no 10% across the board.
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labbloke
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Re: 10% lapsing nationwide
Clint of course you are right, but why let the truth get in the way of a good thread title
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CLINTEASTWOOD1
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Re: 10% lapsing nationwide
labbloke wrote:Clint of course you are right, but why let the truth get in the way of a good thread title
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halfull
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Re: 10% lapsing nationwide
yes you are correct, but so many just do the extra work for nothing(free) as they just cannot cope with the stress cutting off brings.chrisj wrote:I am sure halfull as a Union Rep and perhaps experienced staff can look after himself... And it is not 39 hours for everyone.
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fishtank
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Re: 10% lapsing nationwide
The IWT isn't an all seeing God, It will only give you an idea of indoor resource needed.CLINTEASTWOOD1 wrote:Hello
I dont think this is true the only time you can lapse is when the IWT shows it.
It won't give an accurate picture of the required outdoor resource.
Your model traffic may say one thing, the IWT might say another depending on how much full-time resource you have in place that day, how much sick absence etc, the outdoor opportunity might say something else entirely depending on the traffic streams. It only takes an individual duty to get 20 more packets than usual that day and any lapsing opportunity might be gone.
Would Royal Mail arbitrarily decide that they want an extra 10% of savings driven by absorption this year?labbloke wrote:Clint of course you are right, but why let the truth get in the way of a good thread title
It doesn't sound that far fetched bearing in mind they expect another 5-10% decrease in volumes and a percentage year-on-year reduction in the gross hours spent on delivery activities is a key performance target for the business.
Nobody should be under any illusions about the direction the business will be taking and the challenges facing us in the next few years, there will be no lovely,fluffy new relationship between the union and the employer unless the union plans to roll over and have its tummy tickled while the business cuts the hours away from beneath us, the cuts will be harsh and if you're not ready for the fight you will get rolled over.
Don't think for a minute that these "legal protections" mean we can kick back and enjoy the sunshine, There are many ways to cut hours and jobs from this business without even going near the lawyers.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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CLINTEASTWOOD1
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Re: 10% lapsing nationwide
Hello
Fishtank i stand corrected.what i was getting at was managers will try to put accross to reps that whatever the IWT says they will still try to get extra savings and ignore what the traffic figures are.its a sad case that some reps AND managers dont really know the correct way to use the IWT and mangers use it as a savings tool rather than a resource tool.I think this IWT will be used more and more and training for reps should be given.
Fishtank i stand corrected.what i was getting at was managers will try to put accross to reps that whatever the IWT says they will still try to get extra savings and ignore what the traffic figures are.its a sad case that some reps AND managers dont really know the correct way to use the IWT and mangers use it as a savings tool rather than a resource tool.I think this IWT will be used more and more and training for reps should be given.