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ronpetetrevchris
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Re: North London Delivery revisions

Post by ronpetetrevchris »

clashcityrocker wrote:
woofwoof wrote:So all offices up north that are waiting there last £200 for the next revision should say no agreement till BSI is based at londons BSI average of around say 78%
No - because the agreement says you have to maintain your current performance, so if you are already over 78, then there is no going back.
Those offices with a poor performance are going to face years of having to improve and hand in hand with that will be more job losses.
I don't think working in a poor performing office is anything to aspire to, especially with MTSF under review ......
Sod that, i aspire to work at the same rate as others. If i am to do my rep job properly why would i expect my members to work harder than that, especially as 75 is the standard. We often get forced to work at 100+ by greedy dom and dsm and STILL get hit by evr and hours savings, we will still go through what those at 78 will.

Since seeing this disgraceful thread i have told my dom and dsmnthat i will not talk hours uhtil i see 75 bsi on iwt. Yeah, they laughed at me but who cares. Like i said, if im to do my job properly then i must look aftervthe members, right?
Budfrog
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Re: North London Delivery revisions

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ronpetetrevchris wrote:Sod that, i aspire to work at the same rate as others. If i am to do my rep job properly why would i expect my members to work harder than that, especially as 75 is the standard. We often get forced to work at 100+ by greedy dom and dsm and STILL get hit by evr and hours savings, we will still go through what those at 78 will.

Since seeing this disgraceful thread i have told my dom and dsmnthat i will not talk hours uhtil i see 75 bsi on iwt. Yeah, they laughed at me but who cares. Like i said, if im to do my job properly then i must look aftervthe members, right?
CWU nationally should have never allowed units to accept a performance target of above 75BSI. As there will now be the development of an Incentive Bonus Scheme it is more important than ever that performance indicators such as EP are accurate and take into account ALL worked hours CMA represented members should only being allowed to perform OPG work as an exception.

I don't have an issue with performance levels about 75Bsi but it needs to be linked to performance related payments. BSI/EP targets need to be universally applied not just throughout deliveries but in other functions.

RM have had years and years to develop their control systems and make them fit for purpose but they fail time and time again. It is a fundamental requirement, and not that difficult, to measure and record the basics which are Traffic and Hours and they can't even get those right.
clashcityrocker
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Re: North London Delivery revisions

Post by clashcityrocker »

ronpetetrevchris wrote: Like i said, if im to do my job properly then i must look aftervthe members, right?
You should also abide by the national agreements the CWU members voted for.
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janitor
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Re: North London Delivery revisions

Post by janitor »

But the national agreements the CWU members voted for arn't always the agreement RM implement.
woofwoof
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Re: North London Delivery revisions

Post by woofwoof »

So we know what London got BSI wise on revisions what about welfare breaks was this built in to
Glenno
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Re: North London Delivery revisions

Post by Glenno »

clashcityrocker wrote:
ronpetetrevchris wrote: Like i said, if im to do my job properly then i must look aftervthe members, right?
You should also abide by the national agreements the CWU members voted for.
Point of clarity Clash, when the Member's voted on BT2010 where they aware of the inputs to the IWT, or indeed any other inputs, the answer is sadly NO, the same as this New Agreement NO INPUT, strand groups, group groups and the other groups called strand, we are NOT voting on an AGREED agreement we are voting on what may or may not come out of these group/strands and that is the disgrace that many Members are & will continue to feel after the DOLLAR has gone, I could go on further but rant over for tonite, only 2 days left anyway....Glenno
dave0876
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Re: North London Delivery revisions

Post by dave0876 »

What is 100bsi
dvbuk55
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Re: North London Delivery revisions

Post by dvbuk55 »

dave0876 wrote:What is 100bsi
Nothing you need to worry about if your in London :cuppa
hans solo
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Re: North London Delivery revisions

Post by hans solo »

but heres the big question for cwu hq will they defend postie in say scotland who works at 80bsi and rm scotland sack for underperforming
but is still performing above london capacity
Budfrog
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Re: North London Delivery revisions

Post by Budfrog »

hans solo wrote:but heres the big question for cwu hq will they defend postie in say scotland who works at 80bsi and rm scotland sack for underperforming
but is still performing above london capacity
A clear example of why you need uniformity in terms of standards, but 1st RM need to get their sh*t together and sort out their own measurement systems which are not fit for purpose.