Crozier lies . . . .again and again and. . . . .

[billypants]

on the picket line this morning (tuesday) we listened to a radio interview with Adam Crozier and his bare faced lies amazed us all . . . . . . we all expect a bit of spin nowadays but these were pure, outright lies.

He claimed that the only sticking point left in negotiations is the "flexibility clause" (so the pensions etc are agreed then Adam ?) and went on to explain that this clause meant the postmen would have to work to their agreed finish time rather than finishing 2 hours early and going home when there's still work left in the office. . . . now we all know this does go on but in my mind that's not the bloody arguement anyway, I will happily work to my agreed time every day but I want that agreed time to be fixed and not at the will of a screw changing his mind with the wind. I will work 40 hours a week but not 32 hours one week then 48 the next just coz my screw thinks it's a good idea. I have a life and other commitments just as many other posties do and we need to be able to make plans. I also don't wanna start at 6 every morning when the mail has been sitting in the office since 5 waiting for me, just so RM can save £12 a week from us all (we all know that's the true reason)

so . . . .any other lies been spouting from Sir Adam, all bullshit, Crozier recently. . . .post them here

[chayoliver]

[BELIAL]

on the picket line this morning (tuesday) we listened to a radio interview with Adam Crozier and his bare faced lies amazed us all . . . . . . we all expect a bit of spin nowadays but these were pure, outright lies.

He claimed that the only sticking point left in negotiations is the "flexibility clause" (so the pensions etc are agreed then Adam ?) and went on to explain that this clause meant the postmen would have to work to their agreed finish time rather than finishing 2 hours early and going home when there's still work left in the office. . . . now we all know this does go on but in my mind that's not the bloody arguement anyway, I will happily work to my agreed time every day but I want that agreed time to be fixed and not at the will of a screw changing his mind with the wind. I will work 40 hours a week but not 32 hours one week then 48 the next just coz my screw thinks it's a good idea. I have a life and other commitments just as many other posties do and we need to be able to make plans. I also don't wanna start at 6 every morning when the mail has been sitting in the office since 5 waiting for me, just so RM can save £12 a week from us all (we all know that's the true reason)

so . . . .any other lies been spouting from Sir Adam, all bullshit, Crozier recently. . . .post them here

It is only one of the reasons , more of a bonus side effect ,if they achieve it quids in but the real objective is to move start times by step change to employ a completely different more compliant and less organized workforce.

[johno47]

I heard it on news24, if he had been in front of me ide have throttled the little b***ard, how condesending to say i am in the pension and it also affects me, if i was on £1.4 million a year i wouldnt give a f**k about a pension, he said more but it gets me wound up, the irritating little s**t...UNITY IS STRENGTH.

[G4GYJ]

Lets get one thing straight Crozier made up his sales figures when he worked at Mars, and nearly lost his job lying. Why should we believe any thing that comes out of his gobshite mouth. He has got no idea what our job entails let the c--t come to my office and show me how its done. The f---ing TWAT. He makes me so angry the seat polisher. :cfo Hope he rots in HELL

[chayoliver]

Hi just e-mailed this to crozier

I am bit concerned at all the spin you and Mr Leighton are using about these strikes especially saying postman earn £440 pound a week which you know or should know this is untrue as the majority of postman/woman earn £323 per week, also listening to a radio interview by your self you talked about the meetings at the TUC office over the weekend and on Monday as if you were present at them which you were not, you also stated or tried to make out that your in our pension scheme again your not. Any chance of elaborating on what you actually do know.
PS without any spin


adam.crozier@royalmail.com

[red shirt]

on the picket line this morning (tuesday) we listened to a radio interview with Adam Crozier and his bare faced lies amazed us all . . . . . . we all expect a bit of spin nowadays but these were pure, outright lies.

He claimed that the only sticking point left in negotiations is the "flexibility clause" (so the pensions etc are agreed then Adam ?) and went on to explain that this clause meant the postmen would have to work to their agreed finish time rather than finishing 2 hours early and going home when there's still work left in the office. . . . now we all know this does go on but in my mind that's not the bloody arguement anyway, I will happily work to my agreed time every day but I want that agreed time to be fixed and not at the will of a screw changing his mind with the wind. I will work 40 hours a week but not 32 hours one week then 48 the next just coz my screw thinks it's a good idea. I have a life and other commitments just as many other posties do and we need to be able to make plans. I also don't wanna start at 6 every morning when the mail has been sitting in the office since 5 waiting for me, just so RM can save £12 a week from us all (we all know that's the true reason)

so . . . .any other lies been spouting from Sir Adam, all bullshit, Crozier recently. . . .post them here

I would like to ask anybody since the last revisions WHO THE HELL FINISHES WITH TWO HOURS TO SPARE WE CANNT GET FINISHED AT ALL :cfo

[TrueBlueTerrier]

I used to be pleased when I finish 1/4 hr early I saw it as a victory. Now I work to my time as I rarely make any time thanks to DSA.

[frankie]

[ROCKY]

no idea as to what we earn does not know what hours we work mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
knob head

[jemima]

It's not lies....

He's genuinely confused and stressed. He needs a nice long rest somewhere until he feels better.

RM have had flexible working for a long time. I expect we've all had the odd request from managers asking if we'll work extra hours or come in on our days off. And we've done it, if we possibly can, with good will, to keep the Royal Mail running as it should. But we've had requests rather than orders. There's a very big difference between choosing to help out when we can and being ordered to be on standby at the expense of our private lives. There's no goodwill in that, and I for one wouldn't work under such conditions.

In modern working practice, flexibility means working when YOU want to rather than to any set timescale. Obviously we can't import that into RM since there are deadlines to meet all the time. Fixed hours of work then become a necessity, or all would become chaos and confusion. Customers would be unhappy. If those hours don't stay fixed, day-to-day routines can't be fixed and postpeople will be unhappy and stressed, with associated loss of productivity. So let the normal working hours be fixed. And if anyone's got some genuine figures showing how later deliveries will reduce RM's carbon footprint and help save the planet, let the start times be later, for those whose family arrangements can fit with later times (but not so any RM employees lose money, because if they did, no-one would believe in RM's green credentials).

Some flexibility in the workforce is a necessity. Sometimes there will be an unexpectedly large amount of mail to deal with or a postie might be ill. Then a manager can ask people if they want to work overtime, until he has enough people to deal with the mail. What's wrong with asking? No pressure, and some people (including retired postpeople, I think) will be happy to have very part-time contracts and just help out occasionally when called on.

We don't need military-style discipline to get the job done. We just want to be treated with respect, and as fellow human beings.

[MetalGuru]

I think f**k Crozier remains coy about his own prospects of winning up to £3m if the £400m operating profit target is hit. What a snivelling slimey oily little prick!!! Nothing but a control freak...
:cfo

[billypants]

It's not lies....

I expect we've all had the odd request from managers asking if we'll work extra hours or come in on our days off. And we've done it, if we possibly can, with good will, to keep the Royal Mail running as it should. But we've had requests rather than orders.

We just want to be treated with respect, and as fellow human beings.

jemima -- a very level and restrained post but our point is that, up until now, whenever we're asked to do a little bit extra we have a choice and we get paid for doing the extra. . . . with flexible working there will be no choice and certainly no extra money. . . .it is effectively the end of un-scheduled overtime . . . . . . . . as for being treated with respect, I'm not gonna hold my breath for that one