quick question...

pastyno1 · Post by **pastyno1** » 09 Oct 2007, 00:16

Hi all, just a quick one...

i start at royal mail on thursday, i see strikes are looking likely for the following weeks ahead,
if i dont get to join the union by the weekend how will this affect me,
will i be in big trouble if i striked as well even though its my first week and i wouldnt be in a union??

dont want to look like a scab!

smudger54 · Post by **smudger54** » 09 Oct 2007, 00:26

Find and see the local rep as soon as your shift starts and sort out a joining form, as soon as your on paper your as good as in then just say :cfo managers also just because your not in a union you dont have to cross the line but it helps your cause and any backlash they give you.
Or visit the CWU website and call the local branch office they will help you.

Post by **POSTMAN** » 09 Oct 2007, 00:27

See your rep asap,he should have a form for you.
Don't panic,the screws don't know who is or who isn't in the union.
You can still strike,there should be no come back,see your rep asap.

Also see this thread.

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/vi ... php?t=4970

kanuuuuuu · Post by **kanuuuuuu** » 09 Oct 2007, 01:14

POSTMAN wrote:See your rep asap,he should have a form for you.
Don't panic,the screws don't know who is or who isn't in the union.
You can still strike,there should be no come back,see your rep asap.

Also see this thread.

http://www.royalmailchat.co.uk/forum/vi ... php?t=4970

good advice. Talk to your rep about it. If nothing can be done I personally wouldnt expect you to strike and potentially jeopardise your job until youre union membership is processed, make sure your union rep understands your position if that is the case.

Psychedalic · Post by **Psychedalic** » 09 Oct 2007, 04:13

Although you will find a lot of non union members not working you may well be advised by your union rep to work.

Unfortunately because you are on a probationary contract they can dismiss you very easily and it has been advised to union reps from head quarters that any member who has yet to complete a years employment with Royal Mail should go into work.

Don't worry though your union rep will inform your colleagues of why you had to go into work. BUT WHATEVER YOU DO JOIN THE UNION!

Post by **evilc** » 09 Oct 2007, 09:42

Psychedalic wrote:Although you will find a lot of non union members not working you may well be advised by your union rep to work.

Unfortunately because you are on a probationary contract they can dismiss you very easily and it has been advised to union reps from head quarters that any member who has yet to complete a years employment with Royal Mail should go into work.

Don't worry though your union rep will inform your colleagues of why you had to go into work. BUT WHATEVER YOU DO JOIN THE UNION!

Are you sure about that advice.!!!!!

phantomshare · Post by **phantomshare** » 09 Oct 2007, 12:45

i would also question that advice, i have never heard that and can confirm once you have signed the union form you are covered regardless whether or not it gets processed in time for the first action in which you take part.

Psychedalic · Post by **Psychedalic** » 09 Oct 2007, 16:30

evilc wrote:
Psychedalic wrote:Although you will find a lot of non union members not working you may well be advised by your union rep to work.

Unfortunately because you are on a probationary contract they can dismiss you very easily and it has been advised to union reps from head quarters that any member who has yet to complete a years employment with Royal Mail should go into work.

Don't worry though your union rep will inform your colleagues of why you had to go into work. BUT WHATEVER YOU DO JOIN THE UNION!
Are you sure about that advice.!!!!!

Yep.

Psychedalic · Post by **Psychedalic** » 09 Oct 2007, 16:32

phantomshare wrote:i would also question that advice, i have never heard that and can confirm once you have signed the union form you are covered regardless whether or not it gets processed in time for the first action in which you take part.

The advice wasn't whether you would be covered by the union. If you have just joined, and on a temporary contract RM can dismiss you without a reason. This was the reason that Head Quarters made their branches aware of the situation.

simply_the_best · Post by **simply_the_best** » 09 Oct 2007, 16:40

Psychedalic wrote:
The advice wasn't whether you would be covered by the union. If you have just joined, and on a temporary contract RM can dismiss you without a reason. This was the reason that Head Quarters made their branches aware of the situation.

My brother is an employment lawyer and my other brother has just become a postman

I think any employee can terminate a job within the first 6 months without any comeback.

thcoms · Post by **thcoms** » 09 Oct 2007, 16:48

So, reading these posts means I may well be fcuked as I have only been a worker for 2 months, yes I joined the union immediateley but nobody informed me to go into work, my union rep was encouraging me to strike & im right behind it but at the same time I dont want to lose my job.

Guess ill find out in the morning.

Psychedalic · Post by **Psychedalic** » 09 Oct 2007, 16:53

thcoms - just because royal mail can terminate your contract doesn't mean they will... I think it wouldn't look too good in the press.

kanuuuuuu · Post by **kanuuuuuu** » 09 Oct 2007, 16:54

I doubt itll be an issue

kinmad4it · Post by **kinmad4it** » 09 Oct 2007, 18:24

If they do terminate your contract, they're not stupid enough to say it was because you went on strike. They'll think of another reason.
Actually, it's not terminating a contract, they just wont renew it. I feel sorry for new starters in the current climate.

phantomshare · Post by **phantomshare** » 09 Oct 2007, 21:32

From what your saying i gather your on your trial period, if at the 3 month stage your trial is not confirmed it will be extended for a further 3 months unless you have been absent a number of times or your work is not upto scratch, official industrial action cannot be a factor in not confirming or extending your trial, hang on in there you are doing the right thing, and as always seek advice from your rep or contact your branch, after all that's what there for.