it must be a great deal for us then if they are happy! god help us!dingo wrote:No chance whatsoever !!!!!! In fact they want to go public with it to their shareholders.PostmanBillglos wrote:So is there a chance the upper hierarchy of Royal Mail reject the agrement last minute but we won't be able to strike till after christmas?
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New Agreement is an agreement between negotiating teams
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halfull
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Re: New Agreement is an agreement between negotiating teams
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pants123
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its taking to long to make the agreement to it's members, i get the bad feeling it's not that good..

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Postaltony
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Re: New Agreement is an agreement between negotiating teams
I doubt the deal is great.
More likely have a financial sweetener attached to hide the damaging points and sway the weak minded.
10/1 on a short term gain long term pain deal with the 3 or 5 yr protections back dated, effectively shortening what we may have been expecting.
Do you think they will remove the use of trolleys too since RM and majority of members don't want them?
More likely have a financial sweetener attached to hide the damaging points and sway the weak minded.
10/1 on a short term gain long term pain deal with the 3 or 5 yr protections back dated, effectively shortening what we may have been expecting.
Do you think they will remove the use of trolleys too since RM and majority of members don't want them?
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steven100
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Re: New Agreement is an agreement between negotiating teams
As a delivery postman unless b & h has been addressed along with workload properly, its a no vote from me.
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tetley smooth
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Fingers crossed its a decent deal. But i have a sickening feeling in my gut that wont go away. RM keen to announce to shareholders and CWU wanting more time before we the affected get a glimpse. 
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Glenno
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Patience is a virtue, but even mine is getting tested, RM want to go public to their holders, PEC want to keep it under wraps till possibly 17th, WTF, Members getting dissalusioned, at the very least there should have been an LTB to keep the Members informed, engagement & communication is key...

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tpost
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If RM have guaranteed our terms and conditions for 5 years there will no doubt be a price to pay. The question is, what is that price ? 
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gashead-postie
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Re: New Agreement is an agreement between negotiating teams
tpost wrote:If RM have guaranteed our terms and conditions for 5 years there will no doubt be a price to pay. The question is, what is that price ?

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fishtank
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Re: New Agreement is an agreement between negotiating teams
Breaking rocks in the hot sun...
Clash will like that.
Clash will like that.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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tincatinca
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"I fought RM and RM won"fishtank wrote:Breaking rocks in the hot sun...
Clash will like that.
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dvbuk55
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Re: New Agreement is an agreement between negotiating teams
Nope, they haven't won yet, the negotiators can agree whatever they like, the CWU hierarchy can recommend whatever they like BUT each individual will have the right to vote yes or no and should carefully weigh up the pros and cons. Not the initial financial reward which will be heavily loaded in the blurb but what the agreement says about terms and conditions, for who they are targeting ie part timers like last time, full time long servers, work patterns, modernisation, world class mail, flexibility, banking hours - those are the considerations which should be on top of everyones agenda and not money. The younger you are the longer you are going to have to work and this is one of the crux votes for your future.tincatinca wrote:"I fought RM and RM won"fishtank wrote:Breaking rocks in the hot sun...
Clash will like that.
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biscuit1957
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Is there an agreement? I have not heard,I thought it was a proposed agreement,Has Moya got to agree to it? and I heard she is in Canada for the holidays any chance of a Moya avatar on here not a smiley? 
There is a forgotten, well almost a forbidden word, which means more to me than any other.
That word is ENGLAND!!!
That word is ENGLAND!!!
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fishtank
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Re: New Agreement is an agreement between negotiating teams
Well there was a meeting yesterday and they were expecting to be able to send out some sort of communication yesterday but that failed to materialise so one can only assume that the meeting went on longer than anticipated and was perhaps not as amicable as one would hope.
I can't really see the PEC doing anything other than ratifying the agreement since the alternative would be deeply embarrassing for the negotiators but I would doubt if everyone in the room is as delighted as the picture that will be painted would suggest.
I can't really see the PEC doing anything other than ratifying the agreement since the alternative would be deeply embarrassing for the negotiators but I would doubt if everyone in the room is as delighted as the picture that will be painted would suggest.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
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dvbuk55
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Re: New Agreement is an agreement between negotiating teams
What's betting it will be a unanimous decision and a ground breaking agreement, hopefully it won't open up and swallow us.fishtank wrote:Well there was a meeting yesterday and they were expecting to be able to send out some sort of communication yesterday but that failed to materialise so one can only assume that the meeting went on longer than anticipated and was perhaps not as amicable as one would hope.
I can't really see the PEC doing anything other than ratifying the agreement since the alternative would be deeply embarrassing for the negotiators but I would doubt if everyone in the room is as delighted as the picture that will be painted would suggest.
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Martin Walsh
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Re: New Agreement is an agreement between negotiating teams
The PEC ammended the agreement and voted to accept the document as amended.
Royal Mail and the CWU are both talking about when they both communicate to members , their staff and of course the shareholders.
Of course everyone wants more information but that's the answer.
We will all have to be patient and judge the agreement once we have read it.
Royal Mail and the CWU are both talking about when they both communicate to members , their staff and of course the shareholders.
Of course everyone wants more information but that's the answer.
We will all have to be patient and judge the agreement once we have read it.