ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE

ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!

Theres Madness in the Methods

Latest Royal Mail and CWU news.This is an open forum.
Roy Mayall
Posts: 236
Joined: 10 Oct 2009, 16:46
Gender: Male

Theres Madness in the Methods

Post by Roy Mayall »

Image

According to the Daily Telegraph, “American activist investors” – who are becoming the main buyers into Royal Mail – believe that the company “could execute deeper cost cuts and yield far bigger profits”.

Staff costs are one of the areas being looked at.

http://roymayall.wordpress.com/2013/12/ ... e-methods/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
teesdale
MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
Posts: 430
Joined: 24 Nov 2007, 16:31

Re: Theres Madness in the Methods

Post by teesdale »

Well said. I think it will be impossible to improve productivity in mail centres. The mail has been processed in much the same way for years, nothing has changed. The managers they have allowed in are not really intelligent enough to deal with money or planning. Most have poor communication and technical skills and too many favourites and relations to keep sweet. It could not be made efficient and all new projects will ultimately fail after a year or so. World class mail doesn't work, so how could any new ideas be successful. Bristol Mail Centre is run for the benefit of a close network of people and some hangers on. Royal Mail, Privatisation, the public, Moya Greene, Higson mean nothing to them, and neither will American hedge funds.
Brain Fury
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 664
Joined: 07 Apr 2011, 18:03
Gender: Male

Re: Theres Madness in the Methods

Post by Brain Fury »

Unless his new delivery route using "methods" is exactly the same as the old one then the fact that the delivery span is longer isn't a measure of efficiency. As for bikes being more efficient ....
borders
Posts: 1304
Joined: 11 Sep 2007, 09:10

Re: Theres Madness in the Methods

Post by borders »

what do you do to relieve the aches and pains , after your 4 hour delivery , Mr Fury ??
"why should it just be the bankers, politicians and the idle rich who get all the best things ? we demand a standard of living for our members that enables them to share in the fine wines and times that the likes of Cameron and his Eton buddies take for granted " - the late great Bob Crow RIP.
Brain Fury
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 664
Joined: 07 Apr 2011, 18:03
Gender: Male

Re: Theres Madness in the Methods

Post by Brain Fury »

borders wrote:what do you do to relieve the aches and pains , after your 4 hour delivery , Mr Fury ??
What's the relevance of that question in the context of this article?
Brainache
Posts: 394
Joined: 30 Jul 2010, 21:37
Gender: Male

Re: Theres Madness in the Methods

Post by Brainache »

Brain Fury wrote:
borders wrote:what do you do to relieve the aches and pains , after your 4 hour delivery , Mr Fury ??
What's the relevance of that question in the context of this article?
Borders is concerned about your aches and pains, Mr Fury - whether its contextual or not is not relevant :cool .
fishtank
Posts: 19732
Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
Gender: Male

Re: Theres Madness in the Methods

Post by fishtank »

It involves the scrapping of bikes and their replacement by trolleys:
I really wish Roy,that you would stop writing those pieces from the perspective that every postie in the country had a bike.
Bike rounds were very much the minority.
What they have replaced in the majority of this country with vans and trolleys.......is a postman's back....assuming said postie is bright enough to use the trolley.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
Brain Fury
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 664
Joined: 07 Apr 2011, 18:03
Gender: Male

Re: Theres Madness in the Methods

Post by Brain Fury »

Brains wrote:
Brain Fury wrote:
borders wrote:what do you do to relieve the aches and pains , after your 4 hour delivery , Mr Fury ??
What's the relevance of that question in the context of this article?
Borders is concerned about your aches and pains, Mr Fury - whether its contextual or not is not relevant :cool .
The pains I endure working for RM never seem to go away.
halfull
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 858
Joined: 22 Jan 2011, 13:37
Gender: Male

Re: Theres Madness in the Methods

Post by halfull »

great article, i will be quoting the part about the army fitness expert in my next wtl!!
jack
Posts: 299
Joined: 28 Aug 2007, 14:32

Re: Theres Madness in the Methods

Post by jack »

It makes a nice change to see someone using the correct equipment for the job :Applause
'Royal Mail leaders could not lead a worm, they'll never take our pride cos that's what we earn'
clashcityrocker
Posts: 16701
Joined: 22 Sep 2009, 13:50
Gender: Male
Location: strummerville

Re: Theres Madness in the Methods

Post by clashcityrocker »

It isn't an intensive 4 hour workout and walking 12-15 miles a day is an exaggeration.
Perhaps Roy bought himself a pedometer with the proceeds of his book.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
Danelectro
Posts: 1058
Joined: 13 Apr 2008, 01:02

Re: Theres Madness in the Methods

Post by Danelectro »

clashcityrocker wrote:It isn't an intensive 4 hour workout .
It is in my office so it depends on which office, unfortunately someone like dingo can give us a figure like only 1% have filed B&H complaints but cant give us a figure of how many offices that have gone through delivery methods are using and have been given the time to use the designated method.

My revision is based on 5kg loops but to get the delivery done most end up carrying well over 10kg plus on the busy days rather than double back to the van.Im sure its not the only office where this happens and yes Royal Mail/CWU are aware of this.
Brain Fury
EX ROYAL MAIL
Posts: 664
Joined: 07 Apr 2011, 18:03
Gender: Male

Re: Theres Madness in the Methods

Post by Brain Fury »

Danelectro wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:It isn't an intensive 4 hour workout .
It is in my office so it depends on which office, unfortunately someone like dingo can give us a figure like only 1% have filed B&H complaints but cant give us a figure of how many offices that have gone through delivery methods are using and have been given the time to use the designated method.

My revision is based on 5kg loops but to get the delivery done most end up carrying well over 10kg plus on the busy days rather than double back to the van.Im sure its not the only office where this happens and yes Royal Mail/CWU are aware of this.
Presumably there is a reason why the LWT can't be used?
claretandblue
Posts: 914
Joined: 01 Aug 2007, 12:14

Re: Theres Madness in the Methods

Post by claretandblue »

Brain Fury wrote:
Danelectro wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:It isn't an intensive 4 hour workout .
It is in my office so it depends on which office, unfortunately someone like dingo can give us a figure like only 1% have filed B&H complaints but cant give us a figure of how many offices that have gone through delivery methods are using and have been given the time to use the designated method.

My revision is based on 5kg loops but to get the delivery done most end up carrying well over 10kg plus on the busy days rather than double back to the van.Im sure its not the only office where this happens and yes Royal Mail/CWU are aware of this.
Presumably there is a reason why the LWT can't be used?
There's the voice of a man who has never used the LWT, Try it some time brainfury, it turns a do-able 35 minute loop into a 55 minute impossible loop. That's why all our park and loop duties have 2 loops off each.
k979aaa
Posts: 12578
Joined: 03 Sep 2007, 19:14
Gender: Male
Location: THE NORTH

Re: Theres Madness in the Methods

Post by k979aaa »

claretandblue wrote:
Brain Fury wrote:
Danelectro wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:It isn't an intensive 4 hour workout .
It is in my office so it depends on which office, unfortunately someone like dingo can give us a figure like only 1% have filed B&H complaints but cant give us a figure of how many offices that have gone through delivery methods are using and have been given the time to use the designated method.

My revision is based on 5kg loops but to get the delivery done most end up carrying well over 10kg plus on the busy days rather than double back to the van.Im sure its not the only office where this happens and yes Royal Mail/CWU are aware of this.
Presumably there is a reason why the LWT can't be used?
There's the voice of a man who has never used the LWT, Try it some time brainfury, it turns a do-able 35 minute loop into a 55 minute impossible loop. That's why all our park and loop duties have 2 loops off each.
What is Royal Mails walk speeds for a LWT v POUCH walk with small loops obviously they did not do their home work on this as every postie I talk to says it takes longer with a LWT.