Them not getting made up to FT is not the fault of anyone on here. Its the fault of management, and if you feel so strongly about it why don't you, and others of a similar vein in your Unit do something about it. Action speaks louder than words.DB1100 wrote:Most of our part timers are doing more than that this time of the year.And with no chance of being made up to full time either,still as long as you get it why should you bother about anybody else.Lounge Lizard wrote:- because a hellva lot of part timers won't be working anything like 39 hours a week.DB1100 wrote:You seem to forget,a hellva lot of part timers won't be getting anything like that.centenaryman wrote:its a shame I see it in this job and I saw it in my last job,,,,management want something,,,that normally to a worker is bad they dangle the carrot of a small lump sum,,,£300 in this case,,,£240-250 after tax,,,,the workers love it ,,,,,in the long run,,,,your screwed
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does this £300 pound exist ?
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: does this £300 pound exist ?
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Re: does this £300 pound exist ?
You must be the exception to the rule then,well done most of our p/t come in to find only the seq mail has been thrown in and they still have loads to do.centenaryman wrote:the whole idea of every payment,,,,wether it be xmas bonus,,,,,condition bribe or even delivery supplement being pro rata aint a concern of mine.....the point I was making was there offering money,,,,,why,,,,,think of the long game,,,,a few quid in a lump sum wont be the answer,,,no matter how much you need it now.
but since I was reminded of this pro rata,,,,,i have a "concern",,,i am full time,,,i prep mine and my part timers walks in a morning,,,,i am expected to have it all ready in the time before he starts,,,,he then comes in to work,,,is paid 6 hrs a day,,,,were on a 4 hour delivery span,,,,,simple maths say 6hrs pay,,,,4 hrs delivery,,,,?
part time,,,,and for that matter full time in our office come in on time and finish at the finishing time,,,,so no extra hours at our d.o
unless your offered overtime
now im off to get my tin hat on.....
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DB1100
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Re: does this £300 pound exist ?
I know it's not the fault of anyone on here,all I am doing is pointing out that when most people are saying that they are going to get £300,p/timers aren't,and as for actions want do you want me to do,maybe kill a full timer so there is a vacancy prehaps,or report a full timer for something so they get the sackTrueBlueTerrier wrote:Them not getting made up to FT is not the fault of anyone on here. Its the fault of management, and if you feel so strongly about it why don't you, and others of a similar vein in your Unit do something about it. Action speaks louder than words.DB1100 wrote:Most of our part timers are doing more than that this time of the year.And with no chance of being made up to full time either,still as long as you get it why should you bother about anybody else.Lounge Lizard wrote:- because a hellva lot of part timers won't be working anything like 39 hours a week.DB1100 wrote:You seem to forget,a hellva lot of part timers won't be getting anything like that.centenaryman wrote:its a shame I see it in this job and I saw it in my last job,,,,management want something,,,that normally to a worker is bad they dangle the carrot of a small lump sum,,,£300 in this case,,,£240-250 after tax,,,,the workers love it ,,,,,in the long run,,,,your screwed
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Re: does this £300 pound exist ?
You must be the exception to the rule then,well done most of our p/t come in to find only the seq mail has been thrown in and they still have loads to do.
theres another one for you to stand up to,,,as tbt has just said to you,,,maybe something needs to be done in your office,,,,,were pushed each morning to put the walks in ready for part time staff,,,,,actions are needed
oh yeah and agreed this 300 or prorate was just an offering,,,,ifs and buts,,,and was dismissed by the union,,,,,now on the other hand we do get 200 at xmas as a bonus,,,even prorate ny last job never gave us an xmas bonus,,,,,except 1 year they gave us a £10 m an s voucher,,,,,ohhh the choices in the shops with that
theres another one for you to stand up to,,,as tbt has just said to you,,,maybe something needs to be done in your office,,,,,were pushed each morning to put the walks in ready for part time staff,,,,,actions are needed
oh yeah and agreed this 300 or prorate was just an offering,,,,ifs and buts,,,and was dismissed by the union,,,,,now on the other hand we do get 200 at xmas as a bonus,,,even prorate ny last job never gave us an xmas bonus,,,,,except 1 year they gave us a £10 m an s voucher,,,,,ohhh the choices in the shops with that
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Re: does this £300 pound exist ?
Dingo wrote 6th november In regards to the £300 it was already in the first offer and was part of the discussions on the replacement to colleague share so it will still be there under the improved offer , the question will be is this improved on. Equally it will be paid to everyone and will not be a bribe
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DB1100
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Re: does this £300 pound exist ?
Management are happy for the staff to be arguing amongst themselves,it takes the pressure of them,divide and conquer that is why in our office and maybe yours some walks are ridiculously easy and others are completely bonkers.centenaryman wrote:You must be the exception to the rule then,well done most of our p/t come in to find only the seq mail has been thrown in and they still have loads to do.
theres another one for you to stand up to,,,as tbt has just said to you,,,maybe something needs to be done in your office,,,,,were pushed each morning to put the walks in ready for part time staff,,,,,actions are needed
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TrueBlueTerrier
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Re: does this £300 pound exist ?
Simple as don't do overtime till they come to an agreement or stick to the ones they are ignoring. Especially useful at Christmas when and if you have a Christmas agreement.
As to the pointing out pro rata - everyone knows and there are argument on both sides of if its fair or not. But to expect people to mention it EVERY time they post about bonuses and supplements seems a pointless exercise. Should we also at the same time mention the fact that tax and national insurance will also reduce the actual amount that reaches our bank accounts.
As to the pointing out pro rata - everyone knows and there are argument on both sides of if its fair or not. But to expect people to mention it EVERY time they post about bonuses and supplements seems a pointless exercise. Should we also at the same time mention the fact that tax and national insurance will also reduce the actual amount that reaches our bank accounts.
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DB1100
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Re: does this £300 pound exist ?
One of my previous jobs we got a proper turkey.I cannot see that nowadays with all the food regs.centenaryman wrote:You must be the exception to the rule then,well done most of our p/t come in to find only the seq mail has been thrown in and they still have loads to do.
theres another one for you to stand up to,,,as tbt has just said to you,,,maybe something needs to be done in your office,,,,,were pushed each morning to put the walks in ready for part time staff,,,,,actions are needed
oh yeah and agreed this 300 or prorate was just an offering,,,,ifs and buts,,,and was dismissed by the union,,,,,now on the other hand we do get 200 at xmas as a bonus,,,even prorate ny last job never gave us an xmas bonus,,,,,except 1 year they gave us a £10 m an s voucher,,,,,ohhh the choices in the shops with that
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DB1100
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Re: does this £300 pound exist ?
I don't expect it to be mentioned every time,you are missing my point which was that while they are moaning about only getting x amount some people have to make do with a lot less.TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Simple as don't do overtime till they come to an agreement or stick to the ones they are ignoring. Especially useful at Christmas when and if you have a Christmas agreement.
As to the pointing out pro rata - everyone knows and there are argument on both sides of if its fair or not. But to expect people to mention it EVERY time they post about bonuses and supplements seems a pointless exercise. Should we also at the same time mention the fact that tax and national insurance will also reduce the actual amount that reaches our bank accounts.
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freelunch
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Re: does this £300 pound exist ?
Spent my £300 Christmas shopping yesterday
Whoardayamean it never existed
Whoardayamean it never existed
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postiel
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Re: does this £300 pound exist ?
for f%*k sake will people look at the big picture and not the short term bribe
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arnold cheshire
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Re: does this £300 pound exist ?
200 quid after deductionscentenaryman wrote:its a shame I see it in this job and I saw it in my last job,,,,management want something,,,that normally to a worker is bad they dangle the carrot of a small lump sum,,,£300 in this case,,,£240-250 after tax,,,,the workers love it ,,,,,in the long run,,,,your screwed
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arnold cheshire
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Re: does this £300 pound exist ?
its not in any agreement and dont spend the 200 pound xmas bonus as you can bet the cwu have put that into the payrise 
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k979aaa
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Re: does this £300 pound exist ?
No it is a figment in fragmentation do you think they would pay it and if they did not would you run to your union rep or manager for it?thechemisyshop wrote:as it says ,, does it exist or is it pie in the sky