Deal or no deal

[tasam]

Everything including the delivery staff themselves.

Many delivery staff run around cutting corners.

There are other delivery staff who spend more time socialising than working.

The minority are left to do the job properly.

[dvbuk55]

The alarm bells are ringing here that RM is playing for time, time to get the most profitable time of the year done without strike action.

No! Really? Wonder if the CWU noticed that - in fairness the PEC should call a strike if they do it's hats off - BUT would it go ahead if called for the 27th?

[pants123]

i heard that the talks are all conference call talks,,, and take time to communicate, not face to face.... the talks need to be in a single room, with all parties in this 1 room,,, sit there till it sorted out......... simples....

seems to me there scared to sit and face each other.... sh.t houses...

sort it out or its all out..

[Stumpy]

I'll wager that they will be almost in agreement but talks will be postponed over the Christmas period and reconvevend around the start of Febraury.

[egor110]

Amazon won't allow another 7 days.

I disagree! Remember that Amazon was making noises about going elsewhere about 2 years ago... they cam back because we are still the largest network, most accessible (esp with posties now doing packets and redelivery and collection points) and the most reliable.

Amazon will rather have 7 more days than having to worry about finding alternatives which are not frankly there in numbers or reliability.

It is too late for any of the parties or major customers to walk away... Xmas has practically started!

I said a while back - why not just postpone the whole thing till after Xmas? Even the negotiators will be now so tired and ratty - trying to draft any serious binding Agreements within such a (now) tight deadline is asking a lot.

So what's to stop them getting back round the table early jan and royal mail going back on what's been agreed?

They could just say strike then we've got thru xmas so we don't care, plus i bet a lot of posties will need to pay off xmas in jan/feb which strengthens royal mails position even more.

If we have to strike then we do it now when royal mail will have amazon/share holders putting pressure on them to get it sorted.

[Silly Sarah]

I wonder what will be in the box at 5 o'clock... and there will be no consoling words from Mr Edmonds for us.

[nudenut]

I wonder what will be in the box at 5 o'clock... and there will be no consoling words from Mr Edmonds for us.

A massive bill for expenses.....

[borgpicard]

Billy and Dave are giving us something to vote on....
Do you approve this organisation's change of name, to the NCWWU?

(Not Communicating With Workers Union)

[Rumple]

Twentyfive minutes..... I'm in suspenders here!

[borgpicard]

we are loosing our winning hand, it needs action now

[cloherty1976]

Shares just dropped so I say no deal

[Postaltony]

Deliveries !! But the whole process is time consuming because of the legal guarantees and lawyers involved.

It would have been smarter to start the whole process earlier.

Totally agree with that fishtank. Why don't they start in January ready for the April payrise in future.

[cloherty1976]

we are loosing our winning hand, it needs action now

Hope we have someone like Phil Ivey playing our hand

[Postaltony]

Unless significant progress has been made in the last 7 days then we should call a strike. Let's see how focused RM's minds become on sorting a deal when strike action is looming just before Christmas instead of extension after extension.

How would we know there has been significant progress, they don't tell us anything.

[stephen500]

The PEC are meeting in windsor as we speak and will decide.

Why Windsor...is the Queen involved