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anyone changed their mind.
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thehissingcat
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- Gender: Male
Re: anyone changed their mind.
what,s the deal with deliveries I don ,t understand
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Ahebban
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- Gender: Male
- Location: Left of ... Left
Re: anyone changed their mind.
The most likely sticking points will be related to deliveries - workloads, office savings, bullying etc. Royal Mail are adamant that workloads are fair, savings are achievable and bullying etc takes place between posties more often than not. In suggesting that management would even consider bullying/harassing a postie is just nonsensical in the mind of Moya. 
Ahebban - anglo-saxon in origin - meaning 'Wages War'
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Guevarista
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- Gender: Male
Re: anyone changed their mind.
The problem with deliveries, my friend, is that in most delivery units we are faced with an unrealistic workload. This is coupled with a culture of bullying and harassment by management (in order to complete the unrealistic workload), that leaves many posties in utter despair on a daily basis. If we cannot use the current dispute/negotiation process to address this issue then we are - as both a union, & as a publicly listed company, dead in the water!thehissingcat wrote:what,s the deal with deliveries I don ,t understand
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Patrick301
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 101
- Joined: 21 Sep 2008, 22:04
- Gender: Male
Re: anyone changed their mind.
i was on the walks 25 years agoGuevarista wrote:The problem with deliveries, my friend, is that in most delivery units we are faced with an unrealistic workload. This is coupled with a culture of bullying and harassment by management (in order to complete the unrealistic workload), that leaves many posties in utter despair on a daily basis. If we cannot use the current dispute/negotiation process to address this issue then we are - as both a union, & as a publicly listed company, dead in the water!thehissingcat wrote:what,s the deal with deliveries I don ,t understand
we didnt have vans to carry our work and transport us to first drop
no drivers to do our parcels or drop drop bags off
and in those days there was a thing called the 2nd delivery
where after a short break for a full english
you had to do the same walk again that you completed 2 hours earlier
we didnt moan , we just got on with it
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dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 16650
- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: anyone changed their mind.
Well obviously you got out at the right time, even 10 years ago the job was manageable. There's no point in equating what the job was 25 years ago to today - nothing is the same, though why not give it a go?conman wrote:i was on the walks 25 years ago
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chickenwittle
- Posts: 2095
- Joined: 15 Nov 2009, 09:43
- Gender: Male
Re: anyone changed their mind.
what a stupid post.conman wrote:i was on the walks 25 years agoGuevarista wrote:The problem with deliveries, my friend, is that in most delivery units we are faced with an unrealistic workload. This is coupled with a culture of bullying and harassment by management (in order to complete the unrealistic workload), that leaves many posties in utter despair on a daily basis. If we cannot use the current dispute/negotiation process to address this issue then we are - as both a union, & as a publicly listed company, dead in the water!thehissingcat wrote:what,s the deal with deliveries I don ,t understand
we didnt have vans to carry our work and transport us to first drop
no drivers to do our parcels or drop drop bags off
and in those days there was a thing called the 2nd delivery
where after a short break for a full english
you had to do the same walk again that you completed 2 hours earlier
we didnt moan , we just got on with it
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arnold cheshire
- Posts: 5309
- Joined: 14 Oct 2010, 21:28
- Gender: Male
- Location: england
Re: anyone changed their mind.
yes there was vans to drop you off 25 years ago yes drivers did do large packets 25 years ago yes you could have a bag dropped off 25 years ago and you had to do the same walk you completed 45 mins ago with a couple of letterschickenwittle wrote:what a stupid post.conman wrote:i was on the walks 25 years agoGuevarista wrote:The problem with deliveries, my friend, is that in most delivery units we are faced with an unrealistic workload. This is coupled with a culture of bullying and harassment by management (in order to complete the unrealistic workload), that leaves many posties in utter despair on a daily basis. If we cannot use the current dispute/negotiation process to address this issue then we are - as both a union, & as a publicly listed company, dead in the water!thehissingcat wrote:what,s the deal with deliveries I don ,t understand
we didnt have vans to carry our work and transport us to first drop
no drivers to do our parcels or drop drop bags off
and in those days there was a thing called the 2nd delivery
where after a short break for a full english
you had to do the same walk again that you completed 2 hours earlier
we didnt moan , we just got on with it
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cloherty1976
- MAIL CENTRES/PROCESSING
- Posts: 1236
- Joined: 11 Mar 2010, 12:16
- Gender: Male
- Location: The south
Re: anyone changed their mind.
This is very true and I remember you could also get on a bus in those days too.. The good old daysbringon4dayweeks wrote: yes there was vans to drop you off 25 years ago yes drivers did do large packets 25 years ago yes you could have a bag dropped off 25 years ago and you had to do the same walk you completed 45 mins ago with a couple of letters
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dvbuk55
- EX ROYAL MAIL
- Posts: 16650
- Joined: 02 Jun 2007, 19:17
- Gender: Male
Re: anyone changed their mind.
I still can -I have a bus pass, not really but I am entitled to onecloherty1976 wrote:This is very true and I remember you could also get on a bus in those days too.. The good old daysbringon4dayweeks wrote: yes there was vans to drop you off 25 years ago yes drivers did do large packets 25 years ago yes you could have a bag dropped off 25 years ago and you had to do the same walk you completed 45 mins ago with a couple of letters
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chrisj
- Posts: 1883
- Joined: 21 Dec 2010, 16:24
- Gender: Male
Re: anyone changed their mind.
What about Postman Pat's van.
The bloke says he is a 'conman' - and we believe you. Not biting especially coming from someone who claims to be attached to the MC forum: it is a wind up!!!
Posties still get on with it otherwise there would have been wildcat strikes or the system would have ground to a halt. Maybe getting on with it is really the problem - it appears now too late to do much about things.
The bloke says he is a 'conman' - and we believe you. Not biting especially coming from someone who claims to be attached to the MC forum: it is a wind up!!!
Posties still get on with it otherwise there would have been wildcat strikes or the system would have ground to a halt. Maybe getting on with it is really the problem - it appears now too late to do much about things.
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egor110
- Posts: 75
- Joined: 11 Nov 2012, 23:38
- Gender: Male
Re: anyone changed their mind.
Idiot, 23 years ago i started on deliveries if i had more than 1 pouch to deliver that was a busy day, things are very different now.conman wrote:i was on the walks 25 years agoGuevarista wrote:The problem with deliveries, my friend, is that in most delivery units we are faced with an unrealistic workload. This is coupled with a culture of bullying and harassment by management (in order to complete the unrealistic workload), that leaves many posties in utter despair on a daily basis. If we cannot use the current dispute/negotiation process to address this issue then we are - as both a union, & as a publicly listed company, dead in the water!thehissingcat wrote:what,s the deal with deliveries I don ,t understand
we didnt have vans to carry our work and transport us to first drop
no drivers to do our parcels or drop drop bags off
and in those days there was a thing called the 2nd delivery
where after a short break for a full english
you had to do the same walk again that you completed 2 hours earlier
we didnt moan , we just got on with it
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davey k
- Posts: 3
- Joined: 27 Sep 2010, 20:39
- Gender: Male
Re: anyone changed their mind.
billy hayes is a baffoon ,he showed him self up on the andrew marr show a few weeks ago talking about plastic bags,were w

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banner18
- Posts: 636
- Joined: 05 Sep 2008, 19:10
- Gender: Male
Re: anyone changed their mind.
How can deliveries get sold down the river? There will be a vote where the majority of the voters are in deliveries. The reality is that anything short of a return to task and finish will not result in any real change for deliveries. Work all paid hours coupled with USO obligations are the whips from below and above that will maintain things as they are. I am not against working all paid hours but in deliveries this is based on estimates, expectations and targets leading to the problems we have now.
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clashcityrocker
- Posts: 16728
- Joined: 22 Sep 2009, 13:50
- Gender: Male
- Location: strummerville
Re: anyone changed their mind.
They can't, but it's something people love to repeat on here as though repeating it actually makes it true.banner18 wrote:How can deliveries get sold down the river?
It comes joint top with "we had them by the balls last time and the union bottled it".
And just ahead of "there's a lizard in charge of our DO"
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
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worktotime
- Posts: 2866
- Joined: 14 May 2010, 20:47
- Gender: Male
Re: anyone changed their mind.
conman , 1 - 2 - 3 - your back in the roomconman wrote:i was on the walks 25 years agoGuevarista wrote:The problem with deliveries, my friend, is that in most delivery units we are faced with an unrealistic workload. This is coupled with a culture of bullying and harassment by management (in order to complete the unrealistic workload), that leaves many posties in utter despair on a daily basis. If we cannot use the current dispute/negotiation process to address this issue then we are - as both a union, & as a publicly listed company, dead in the water!thehissingcat wrote:what,s the deal with deliveries I don ,t understand
we didnt have vans to carry our work and transport us to first drop
no drivers to do our parcels or drop drop bags off
and in those days there was a thing called the 2nd delivery
where after a short break for a full english
you had to do the same walk again that you completed 2 hours earlier
we didnt moan , we just got on with it