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One day to go then...

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or bob needs to batter the workforce to strengthen rm more like :left:
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dingo wrote:Does a General in the army have to serve on the front line ?
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dingo wrote:Does a football manager have to play in the football team to manage ?
Not if he's the special one.
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Bob is special !!
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dingo wrote:Bob is special !!
But he's no Edgar Davids.
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dingo wrote: Does a football manager have to play in the football team to manage ? Does a General in the army have to serve on the front line ?
No, but equally most of the best have. Sir Alex played for Rangers and I'm pretty sure Alexander the Great did actually fight.

I'm not having a go, just wanted to know that they are fully aware of the present issues in delivery, and the scale of them.
From the footage of the November 4th meeting, Bob Gibson "where in the agreement does it say 100 BSI".
I agree, It doesn't, but the wording doesn't prevent Managers expecting it and more.
A lot of what is in there is good, but needs strengthening. To prevent these bonus driven Managers from exploiting and bullying staff.
resourcing to demand /absorption are perfectly acceptable if the workloads are fair and reasonable, and we get the benefits promised such as extra staff being able to take leave due to it (Pay and Mods 2007)
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What's it going to be then deal of the century or no deal. Personally I think they called off the strike as they were worried how many going to work on strike day and the thought of people getting £300 for coming into work well what would the union say if it was paid. Now if they announce a strike tomorrow will moya come back with another cash offer if you work?
Questions questions and no answers. The union have to decide what to do but I think they are not sure which way to go and this to me spells weakness.
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Cloherty your talking rubbish the only reason they called off the strike was that Royal Mail blinked and gave 3 big concessions on pay ,pension and extended their legal guarantees from 3 year to no end date with first review on 5 years.

Despite all Royal Mails bribes every single Branch got a majority yes vote and with some in the 90s. It is not the union who has climbed down.
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Post by Anontwin »

Is it really so much trouble to ask for a decent agreement from Royal Mail.that will protect us for years to come. They treat us like we arnt worth a decent agreement. Of all the years of hard work we have done for the company we are repaid with, well, basically nothing. Thanks Royal Mail, your the best! :thumbdown
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dingo wrote:Cloherty your talking rubbish the only reason they called off the strike was that Royal Mail blinked and gave 3 big concessions on pay ,pension and extended their legal guarantees from 3 year to no end date with first review on 5 years.

Despite all Royal Mails bribes every single Branch got a majority yes vote and with some in the 90s. It is not the union who has climbed down.
Ok if you say so but I find it hard to believe. You say you know they made concession on 3 to 5 so what is the big concession on pay 8.6% to what then?
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If the union capitulates and rolls over tommorow or extends the time available for talks then who is likely to say sod this and leave the union with immediate effect?
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Dingo, are we likely to hear something today or is it going to be tomorrow?
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sharky0308 wrote:If the union capitulates and rolls over tommorow or extends the time available for talks then who is likely to say sod this and leave the union with immediate effect?
This can't happen as dingo has said I am talking rubbish and the Royal Mail have already made 3 big concessions. To me it's sounds like the delivery postpersons will be skipping on there rounds. Personally I think not.
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cloherty1976 wrote: To me it's sounds like the delivery postpersons will be skipping on there rounds.
We always skip on our rounds.
And with Park and Loop it's Double Dutch.
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clashcityrocker wrote:it's Double Dutch.
First Edgar Davids and now Double Dutch...
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