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char1ie
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holiday

Post by char1ie »

Hi. Can anyone pls tell me what my holiday entitlement rights are? I ask because the delivery office I am at have stated that next year holiday requests are on seniority first basis. I have kids all school age and a wife who also works in a school. I am about 155th in line for holiday pick. Do I have any rights if my holiday request for time off in the summer holiday is refused due to all allocated slots being used before my pick?
I Missed out this year for a family holiday due to this unfair process. What rights do I have if this happens again for next year?
Lkhardyuk
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Re: holiday

Post by Lkhardyuk »

if this process is so unfair then have the senior postmen never been at the bottom
oh of course everybody wants all the benefits straight away
what about rewards for long service such as seniority
we have all been there
suck it up and wait your turn for seniority
P13
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Re: holiday

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You are not allowed to use seniority for holiday picks, get in touch with your union rep
char1ie
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Re: holiday

Post by char1ie »

Lkhardyuk wrote:if this process is so unfair then have the senior postmen never been at the bottom
oh of course everybody wants all the benefits straight away
what about rewards for long service such as seniority
we have all been there
suck it up and wait your turn for seniority

Thats not exactly a helpful response. I've been a postie for over 5 years, so hardly a noobie.

I had a feeling that seniority was wrong.
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Re: holiday

Post by DB1100 »

What do you suggest is a fair system then ?
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P13
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Re: holiday

Post by P13 »

DB1100 wrote:What do you suggest is a fair system then ?
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Re: holiday

Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

DB1100 wrote:What do you suggest is a fair system then ?
Rotating blocks work well, completely transparent no favouritism or seniority
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Re: holiday

Post by maisymoo04 »

Why not use seniority from top and put p/ timers in with the top groups as well, go down list ok tuff crap if your near the bottom but next year you will be at the top vice versa :nervous :nervous :whistle :whistle :whistle
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char1ie
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Re: holiday

Post by char1ie »

Only fair way is for Delivery office to keep record of those who had holiday request refused due to no spaces and for those to get first pick for the next year. Doubt that will ever happen though
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P13 wrote:You are not allowed to use seniority for holiday picks, get in touch with your union rep
And if the union rep is the one advocating seniority?
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Re: holiday

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clashcityrocker wrote:
P13 wrote:You are not allowed to use seniority for holiday picks, get in touch with your union rep
And if the union rep is the one advocating seniority?
Good point Clash probably needs to get in touch with the ADR or stick a grievance in asking the office to stick to national agreements
char1ie
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Re: holiday

Post by char1ie »

So what is the national agreement on holiday entitlement?
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Re: holiday

Post by halfull »

top to bottom one year then the next year should start bottom to top.
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Is it a national agreement or not? Why he differences and who is doing anything about? Like most Agreements, they can be bent to suit and they are only as good as the spirit in which they are applied or adhere to by all concerned.

National Agreement on Holidays is subsumed by personal selfish interests. Why bother?
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Re: holiday

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halfull wrote:top to bottom one year then the next year should start bottom to top.
I mentioned that didn't I halfull we'll done :Applause
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