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notts1862
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Re: MY SAY

Post by notts1862 »

Right i am a postman at Nottingham Mail Centre Late Shift. I totally backed the union last time and i backed the union this time. But yet again we have the momentum and what do the union do stall. They had the backing of the members who were prepared to strike but yet again are letting Royal Mail dictate things. I hope for there sake its a good deal because speaking with a few postmen they are all pretty pi@@ed off.
clashcityrocker
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Post by clashcityrocker »

notts1862 wrote: because speaking with a few postmen they are all pretty pi@@ed off.
So everybody is a "few postmen"?
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north london driver
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Post by north london driver »

there is a nasty rumor that billy and moya both walked in at the same time yesterday
this caused the doorway to be blocked the negotiators behind mangement and union both said
f**k this we will see you in two weeks!
Richard007
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Post by Richard007 »

Trouble is some people just want to strike :oops: let's see what deal is before we slate union give em a chance
fishtank
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Post by fishtank »

Richard007 wrote:Trouble is some people just want to strike :oops: let's see what deal is before we slate union give em a chance
No the trouble is some people are suffering from nirvana fallacy syndrome assuming that there is some perfect solution to the issues facing us and if the union doesn't achieve this it must by definition have sold out its members.

At some point serious negotiations had to start,I'm happy they've started now and have a fixed timetable so that if they are going nowhere we still have the chance to apply some pressure.
What I don't want to hear in two weeks time though is that we need more time.

Compared to BT2010 these are relatively simple if contentious issues and if both sides are serious I see no need for more time to achieve a solid framework agreement covering all of the points in the joint statement.
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Lincox
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Post by Lincox »

You do not go out on strike when a management have agreed in writing that they wish to come to a negotiated agreement on a set of principles which include raising pay above what has been previously offered and increasing the protection period from 3 to 5 years.
You go out on strike when management either refuse to negotiate or the terms they have offered are not acceptable.
Notts, what do you and EVEYBODY think you will achieve by continueing with strike action on Monday? What are your goals.
arsenalbob
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Post by arsenalbob »

The one thing that has seemed to have leaked is the 5 year legally binding protection of t and c's. Well, in the current jobs availability climate this would be a deal clincher for me The original pay offer was ok by me and they can keep the £300 if they want as this extension more than makes up for it
steven100
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Post by steven100 »

I'm pretty sure the union know they let down the staff with the last deal but there are trying to make up lost time. I have faith the union will get us the best deal ever, not as good at the 2010 agreement though :left:
arnold cheshire
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Post by arnold cheshire »

arsenalbob wrote:The one thing that has seemed to have leaked is the 5 year legally binding protection of t and c's. Well, in the current jobs availability climate this would be a deal clincher for me The original pay offer was ok by me and they can keep the £300 if they want as this extension more than makes up for it
what do you mean more back pay ?
postypie
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Post by postypie »

notts1862 wrote:Right i am a postman at Nottingham Mail Centre Late Shift. I totally backed the union last time and i backed the union this time. But yet again we have the momentum and what do the union do stall. They had the backing of the members who were prepared to strike but yet again are letting Royal Mail dictate things. I hope for there sake its a good deal because speaking with a few postmen they are all pretty pi@@ed off.


Never mind all that.....are you going to Coventry to see Hodges heroes or like me are you waiting until they appoint a decent and dear I say experienced manager in charge at Notts?