LTB 653/13 - D2D Growth –7 Items per Week - Updated IWT 7.51

[TrueBlueTerrier]

To: All Branches with POSTAL Members

Dear Colleague

Door 2 Door Growth – 7 Items per Week - Updated IWT version 7.51

Further to LTB 604/13 issued on the 10th September 2013 this LTB is circulated to inform Branches and representatives that the IWT has now been updated with revised D2D values jointly work studied to reflect the increase in D2D items to 7 items per week. The updated version of the IWT is version 7.51 and this supersedes all previous versions. Branches and CWU Representatives should note that the revised values were studied on the basis of all 7 items fitting on the RM 2000 bench. Although it is unlikely, there could be situations where some deliveries with just a base frame or 1 or 2 wings get 7 A4 items that cannot be laid out on the frame to collate in one go.

Further work study is being carried out, not only on the indoor preparation element taking into account the situation described above but on other permutations of contracts, and also on the delivery of D2D. The outcome of this will be reported in due course. In the meantime, if any office has a delivery or deliveries that meet the scenario described above then the DOM and CWU Representative will have to decide as part of their weekly resource meeting if extra preparation time is needed on these deliveries to meet the workplan and time out of the office.

Also the workload calculation of the “Buddy Plan Walksorted Flats” box in the Local Input Tab has been corrected as it was referencing the wrong value. CWU representatives should note that there is no need to change the figure you input into the box as it was a calculation error.

These are the only two updates/changes to the IWT which has been released to the field this week commencing Monday 30th September 2013.

Finally it would be appreciated if all Branches could please ensure that this LTB is circulated to all Delivery offices and CWU Delivery representatives without delay.

Any enquiries to Bob Gibson’s Office, quoting reference 230.03
Email address: hnutley@cwu.org

Yours sincerely

Bob Gibson
CWU Assistant Secretary

[dazzlin72]

If we are going to be expected to deliver upto a maximum of 7 d2ds a week, then the union need to re-negotiate the delivery supplement payment amount, as part of the agreement. Why should this so called profitable markets rewards only be seen to go one way?, in Rm's coffers, while we see no reward.

[gand]

Yeah were's our extra money for these!

[Lincox]

Dazzlin & Gand when will you understand that D2ds do not attract extra payment. You have a contract of x hours per week, spread across y amount of days. It does not matter whether you have 0 D2Ds or 50. If you have time to deliver them during these time periods then why should you be paid extra. If these cause you to go over your time then you can legitimately claim overtime, in which case you are being paid extra for the additional work. If you do not wish to go over your time then you cut off. Simple.

[Cut Off King]

LINCOX

It does not matter whether you have 0 D2Ds or 50.

You live in a very different world to the majority of delivery staff.

[Jimbobb]

And I suppose the time to get them ready is built into duty builder as well

[fishtank]

Branches and CWU Representatives should note that the revised values were studied on the basis of all 7 items fitting on the RM 2000 bench. Although it is unlikely, there could be situations where some deliveries with just a base frame or 1 or 2 wings get 7 A4 items that cannot be laid out on the frame to collate in one go.

That's bollocks for a start.
I had 7 two weeks ago and couldn't fit them all on my bench,they weren't even all A4 and since I've only had 7 once and that one time I couldn't fit them all on my bench the use of the word "unlikely" doesn't make much sense.
Someone at HQ has this image of all RM 2000 frames being massive long things with only single slots.
The reality is that many offices have space constraints and smaller compressed double slot frames and until they start realising this then none of their "studies" will mean anything in reality and the IWT will continue to short change members.

[Lincox]

No I live in a world whereby if I am owed overtime, I make sure that it is paid, and have no qualms about taking the ultimate sanction of cutting off. The problem is many people do not challenge poor management and that is why they get away with it and are what they are.

[banddy]

I thought that there was no negotiations and a non co-operation stance between the CWU and the employer ?

[TrueBlueTerrier]

I thought that there was no negotiations and a non co-operation stance between the CWU and the employer ?

ON WCM not IWT

[comeracing]

I will deliver 7 door to door items no problem,as long as there all in 1 ENVELOPE

[Postaltony]

With the number of D2D items generally exceeding 4 per week, does this assume that we should all be on single slots?
I was on a prep frame a few weeks ago and it was double slotted, after filling the first 6-10 slots I could not fit any more in that section of the frame. This had an impact on my prep and slowed me right down.

So I suppose what I am asking is, are we supposed to be on single slots as standard or are we subject to local agreements which in some cases may water down national agreements?

[chrisj]

This d2d agreement will never go away and it needs to be looked at again. Not really the money but the time that was supposed to be built into regular workload. That time was never built into it and now we have more and more d2ds as well as more tracked, recorded and packets to deal with.

I just despair when we get all this hype about this or that agreement when what happens locally is so much different and not even beneficial.

So the Union said they have captured most of the money from d2ds - who cares. What has happened is that the money has been spread even widely and the workload has gone up - hence, the money we are getting has been cancelled out by increased workload.

Before people suggest cutting of: it is not always that clear-cut - all of sudden one is going over by the odd 15 minutes or just about on time and that is generally absorbed by most posties; that is the way it is.

D2Ds are now been done out of the contracted time - that is by a whole load of people (including our ex-Union rep and those that want to claim they come in on their time). So the work is being done like before but without the unit payment - great!

657 drops * 5 (add double slots and bulky and/or A4 d2ds) and getting from £14-£2* for the same job - - joy

[chrisj]

Before you can get the very small packets in the frames but now it is almost impossible to do so. Even some of the ladies magazines, saga, naional trust and smaller catalogues etc will not even go in any more because the whole frame is filled with 5 or more d2ds.

Now one has to separate very small packets and put them in the bag where they duly sink to the bottom... It is even worse when someone else has prepped the walk and not mark or turn for packets

[fishtank]

That time was never built into it

It is.
It's built into the IWT.
You could argue that the times supposedly tested in a "live" environment by both RM and the CWU are unrealistic but the time is built in.
The reason OPGs haven't noticed this extra time is that at the same time mail volumes have apparently been falling at X% per year.(X=5%-10% depending on who you ask)
Can you imagine how little time the IWT would give you to prep your duty without D2D?