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Dozen
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Re: new job

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As someone who started at the beginning of the year i'll share a few things i've learned.

Unless you are already in peak physical fitness, your body is likely in for a complete shock. It took me at least 2-3 months to really adjust to the physical grind that this job demands. Comfortable and adequate footwear is the difference between every day being hell and every day being just about tolerable :Very Happy

I've never been so dehydrated in my life. Take a bottle of water with you on your walk and take small sips throughout the day. Also even on light days you will likely be completely exhausted by the time you get home. A snack of mixed fruit and nuts on your lunch break is the best possible thing to keep the energy going and metabolism working throughout the day.

Unless you're a lucky one, do not expect a RM uniform any time soon. I had to wait about 8 months to get mine, and once ordered it took a good few weeks to arrive. That being said, the CAT trainers are fantastic.

Enjoy your tuesdays, they are brilliant :Very Happy (except for WTL)

Be prepared to receive an absolute barrage of RM propaganda through your letterbox every week. Might want to order another recycling box from your local council!

Join the union ASAP. It can be done through your union rep or online: http://www.cwu.org/join-cwu-postal.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Never completely trust a manager, but as a newbie try not to end up in their bad books either or you'll just make life much harder for yourself. It's a thin line between letting them know you're no pushover, and still staying on good terms with people.

When you are new you are MUCH more vulnerable to managers as they will use this fact to pull the wool over your eyes a lot with their bullsh*t. Unfortunately sometimes we end up learning the hard way :d'oh! , but as Roger Daltrey sung "we don't get fooled again".

In many ways this is still a great job compared to a lot of other work out there, and if you enjoy physical activity and working outside then you could certainly do a lot worse. But never let anyone tell you we should be resting on our laurels, as we are constantly under threat from people who want to undermine the value of our labour. Good luck!
OnAFlyer
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Re: new job

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krussel wrote:
star2010 wrote:
chumley.mouse wrote:Your chances of being kept on depend on how much effort you are willing to put in ? The same applies to any job nowadays. But in my 8 years of being with royal mail , . I have only known of 1 person not to have a contract renewed ( he was a complete waster ) oh. And a cut off is basically when you will not have enough time to deliver all of your walk on a certain day ( and you do not wish to work overtime ) you leave some behind and the manager gets someone else to do it. :wink:
well that sounds good, gonna give it 100% , will probably do all the overtime i can as im only 25 hours a week. :thumbup

A LOT depends on what your office is actually like and the managers who oversee it. My office is fairly small and quite friendly to be honest. The managers are on the whole fair and approachable. However a larger office 10 miles from me is a total nightmare where the manager are always dealing with harassment charges.

You are joining at the beginning of the most busy time of the year so your in at the deep end I am afraid.

Personally I would join the union as soon as. Not sure how much it is for part time but should be no more than a Costa coffee a week. It would earn you respect from your fellow posties to support any industrial action and choose not to work on those days.

In our office 2 part timers have been made full time in the past 6 months. One guy was in desperate need of overtime and has a "I will do anything" approach. He is well liked by both staff and managers and is now one of the top overtime earners. At a guess I would say he clears about £450+ most weeks.
Whereas my office is also friendly and a decent place to work, but you would have zero chance of getting a FT contract. 13 years is currently the longest serving postie without one, and there are a fair few with 10yrs+.
star2010
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Re: new job

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krussel wrote:
star2010 wrote:
chumley.mouse wrote:Your chances of being kept on depend on how much effort you are willing to put in ? The same applies to any job nowadays. But in my 8 years of being with royal mail , . I have only known of 1 person not to have a contract renewed ( he was a complete waster ) oh. And a cut off is basically when you will not have enough time to deliver all of your walk on a certain day ( and you do not wish to work overtime ) you leave some behind and the manager gets someone else to do it. :wink:
well that sounds good, gonna give it 100% , will probably do all the overtime i can as im only 25 hours a week. :thumbup

A LOT depends on what your office is actually like and the managers who oversee it. My office is fairly small and quite friendly to be honest. The managers are on the whole fair and approachable. However a larger office 10 miles from me is a total nightmare where the manager are always dealing with harassment charges.

You are joining at the beginning of the most busy time of the year so your in at the deep end I am afraid.

Personally I would join the union as soon as. Not sure how much it is for part time but should be no more than a Costa coffee a week. It would earn you respect from your fellow posties to support any industrial action and choose not to work on those days.

In our office 2 part timers have been made full time in the past 6 months. One guy was in desperate need of overtime and has a "I will do anything" approach. He is well liked by both staff and managers and is now one of the top overtime earners. At a guess I would say he clears about £450+ most weeks.
Yea cool , just didn't like the fact i have been reading alot about bullying on here, not really something you want to see when starting a new job. i will probably go in with the attitude of i will do anything. The ones that got made up to full time , did they get a permanent contract? that is what i am gonna aim for , probably asking a bit much tho from what ive read on here.... if he was clearing about 450+ a week how many hours was he doing for that?
star2010
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Re: new job

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OnAFlyer wrote:
krussel wrote:
star2010 wrote:
chumley.mouse wrote:Your chances of being kept on depend on how much effort you are willing to put in ? The same applies to any job nowadays. But in my 8 years of being with royal mail , . I have only known of 1 person not to have a contract renewed ( he was a complete waster ) oh. And a cut off is basically when you will not have enough time to deliver all of your walk on a certain day ( and you do not wish to work overtime ) you leave some behind and the manager gets someone else to do it. :wink:
well that sounds good, gonna give it 100% , will probably do all the overtime i can as im only 25 hours a week. :thumbup

A LOT depends on what your office is actually like and the managers who oversee it. My office is fairly small and quite friendly to be honest. The managers are on the whole fair and approachable. However a larger office 10 miles from me is a total nightmare where the manager are always dealing with harassment charges.

You are joining at the beginning of the most busy time of the year so your in at the deep end I am afraid.

Personally I would join the union as soon as. Not sure how much it is for part time but should be no more than a Costa coffee a week. It would earn you respect from your fellow posties to support any industrial action and choose not to work on those days.

In our office 2 part timers have been made full time in the past 6 months. One guy was in desperate need of overtime and has a "I will do anything" approach. He is well liked by both staff and managers and is now one of the top overtime earners. At a guess I would say he clears about £450+ most weeks.
Whereas my office is also friendly and a decent place to work, but you would have zero chance of getting a FT contract. 13 years is currently the longest serving postie without one, and there are a fair few with 10yrs+.
could i get a permanent pt contract then?
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Re: new job

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star2010 wrote:
krussel wrote:
star2010 wrote:
chumley.mouse wrote:Your chances of being kept on depend on how much effort you are willing to put in ? The same applies to any job nowadays. But in my 8 years of being with royal mail , . I have only known of 1 person not to have a contract renewed ( he was a complete waster ) oh. And a cut off is basically when you will not have enough time to deliver all of your walk on a certain day ( and you do not wish to work overtime ) you leave some behind and the manager gets someone else to do it. :wink:
well that sounds good, gonna give it 100% , will probably do all the overtime i can as im only 25 hours a week. :thumbup

A LOT depends on what your office is actually like and the managers who oversee it. My office is fairly small and quite friendly to be honest. The managers are on the whole fair and approachable. However a larger office 10 miles from me is a total nightmare where the manager are always dealing with harassment charges.

You are joining at the beginning of the most busy time of the year so your in at the deep end I am afraid.

Personally I would join the union as soon as. Not sure how much it is for part time but should be no more than a Costa coffee a week. It would earn you respect from your fellow posties to support any industrial action and choose not to work on those days.

In our office 2 part timers have been made full time in the past 6 months. One guy was in desperate need of overtime and has a "I will do anything" approach. He is well liked by both staff and managers and is now one of the top overtime earners. At a guess I would say he clears about £450+ most weeks.
Yea cool , just didn't like the fact i have been reading alot about bullying on here, not really something you want to see when starting a new job. i will probably go in with the attitude of i will do anything. The ones that got made up to full time , did they get a permanent contract? that is what i am gonna aim for , probably asking a bit much tho from what ive read on here.... if he was clearing about 450+ a week how many hours was he doing for that?
One younger guy was part time for 5 years :sad: However his attitude was, shall we say, casual at best :neutral: . He kept wanting to leave and even handed in his notice before retracting it. The other guy was in and out of work for a few years and came to us via the agency. Very positive attitude, says his going to support the dispute etc. He joined part time (30 hours) in Jan. I did some training with him out in the snow and he was smiling and joking the whole way around. Really picked my spirits up to be honest.

We have a good rep and are going into a revision so people got made up to fill duties. Right place right time etc.

As a far as OT goes he does around 15-20 hrs a week. I think he has about 180 hrs on the board since Aug.
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Re: new job

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star2010 wrote:could i get a permanent pt contract then?
Nothing is written in stone, especially with Privatisation happening only a few weeks ago, but on past comments and experience its currently fairly rare for someone who wants to stay not to have their contract extended. Once it reaches a certain point (4 years in law - 2 years in an agreement with RM and the Union) then you are usually given a permanent contract, though sometimes on different hours (less and more).
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Re: new job

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
star2010 wrote:could i get a permanent pt contract then?
Nothing is written in stone, especially with Privatisation happening only a few weeks ago, but on past comments and experience its currently fairly rare for someone who wants to stay not to have their contract extended. Once it reaches a certain point (4 years in law - 2 years in an agreement with RM and the Union) then you are usually given a permanent contract, though sometimes on different hours (less and more).
ok yea ive read alot regarding the contracts , suppose some people get lucky.... can i ask how much does a postman take home after tax if you work 40 hours a week??
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Re: new job

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star2010 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
star2010 wrote:could i get a permanent pt contract then?
Nothing is written in stone, especially with Privatisation happening only a few weeks ago, but on past comments and experience its currently fairly rare for someone who wants to stay not to have their contract extended. Once it reaches a certain point (4 years in law - 2 years in an agreement with RM and the Union) then you are usually given a permanent contract, though sometimes on different hours (less and more).
ok yea ive read alot regarding the contracts , suppose some people get lucky.... can i ask how much does a postman take home after tax if you work 40 hours a week??
me £300 roughly.
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Re: new job

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote: me £300 roughly.
Does that include the Huddersfield Weighting Allowance?
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Re: new job

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clashcityrocker wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote: me £300 roughly.
Does that include the Huddersfield Weighting Allowance?

whats the weighting allowance?? so about 1200 a month.. thats not bad is it..
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star2010 wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote: me £300 roughly.
Does that include the Huddersfield Weighting Allowance?

whats the weighting allowance??
A joke - Only Inner and Outer London get any weighting allowance. Although the waist of my trousers may need a weighting adjustment.
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Re: new job

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
star2010 wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote: me £300 roughly.
Does that include the Huddersfield Weighting Allowance?

whats the weighting allowance??
A joke - Only Inner and Outer London get any weighting allowance. Although the waist of my trousers may need a weighting adjustment.
im down south where you based?
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star2010 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
star2010 wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote: me £300 roughly.
Does that include the Huddersfield Weighting Allowance?

whats the weighting allowance??
A joke - Only Inner and Outer London get any weighting allowance. Although the waist of my trousers may need a weighting adjustment.
im down south where you based? do you know tonbridge sorting office?
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Re: new job

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star2010 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
star2010 wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote: me £300 roughly.
Does that include the Huddersfield Weighting Allowance?

whats the weighting allowance??
A joke - Only Inner and Outer London get any weighting allowance. Although the waist of my trousers may need a weighting adjustment.
im down south where you based? do you know tonbridge sorting office?
The clue is in the fact that he gets Huddersfield Weighting Allowance :whistle
God knows what he spends it all on
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Re: new job

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Pinky 1 wrote:
star2010 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
star2010 wrote:
clashcityrocker wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote: me £300 roughly.
Does that include the Huddersfield Weighting Allowance?

whats the weighting allowance??
A joke - Only Inner and Outer London get any weighting allowance. Although the waist of my trousers may need a weighting adjustment.
im down south where you based? do you know tonbridge sorting office?
The clue is in the fact that he gets Huddersfield Weighting Allowance :whistle
God knows what he spends it all on
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