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Why are we going on Strike ?

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bunkerland
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Re: Why are we going on Strike ?

Post by bunkerland »

clashcityrocker wrote:And more vending machines with Haribo Fangtastics as outlined in the recent consultative ballot.
Holy s**t, i thought they were just an urban myth! Oh wait, is this another of these London perks? :sad:
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Re: Why are we going on Strike ?

Post by Dorset Plodder »

WTF... I've had a few beers so I'll refrain from launching off...but Clash has outlined it and wannabeek has a valid point. Are you serious? :shock:
Like all Wage Slaves, he had two crosses to bear: The people he worked for and the people he worked with! (Stephen Vizinczey.)
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Re: Why are we going on Strike ?

Post by BingBong »

mr deeds wrote:
baleout wrote:
wannabeek wrote:oh good grief!! Aren't there enough threads answering your question already? Spend a moment or two with the decent site search function, eh?
Ok Smart Arse. Why dont you just tell me !!!!

I must agree the union have not been clear to the membership on what they want? or even asked the membership if they are happy with the current 3 year deal that is on the table now
Think the vote for strike covers what we think of the deal
Toon Army!
Tman
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Re: Why are we going on Strike ?

Post by Tman »

Still seems to be a lot of staff either undecided about going on strike or even if the strike is worthwhile at the moment given what's on offer.
The worst case scenario would be a limited response to the strike, leading to RM management (whoever they may now be) thinking that the CWU's power and influence is waning, and also leading to more "waverers" refusing to strike next time, as "few did last time and I won't be caught again".
Then again, RM management, possibly heartened by the Grangemouth fiasco, may think that this is the time to show who's the boss.
So yet again, the CWU have been wrong-footed by RM.
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Re: Why are we going on Strike ?

Post by dvbuk55 »

Tman wrote:) thinking that the CWU's power and influence is waning.
No! Seriously? :shock:
74tower
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Re: Why are we going on Strike ?

Post by 74tower »

I think CWU has lost the initiative now, they have allowed Royal Mail time to out flank them and I am not sure we have the public support. What has happened at Grangemouth must be music to Moyas ears and I don't see a much better deal coming to the table. The Royal Mail propaganda machine has had time to influence the waverers and the public or was that the plan all along mr ward and Hayes ?
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Re: Why are we going on Strike ?

Post by banner18 »

The public generally look at pay and seen as they are getting pay freezes and 1% rises, we are going to look greedy and won't have their support.
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Post by arnold cheshire »

banner18 wrote:The public generally look at pay and seen as they are getting pay freezes and 1% rises, we are going to look greedy and won't have their support.
yes its all gone daft the cwu have been beat
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Re: Why are we going on Strike ?

Post by arnold cheshire »

baleout wrote:Can someone pls explain to me in simple terms.... what is the Union asking for ?
good question it should be called off
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Re: Why are we going on Strike ?

Post by fishtank »

bringon4dayweeks wrote:yes its all gone daft the cwu have been beat
The company accepted our offer for fresh talks and these began on Wednesday 23rd October.

In commencing these talks the company also agreed that the previously rejected offer was off the table and they confirmed that they would make a new improved offer on the key aspects of the dispute.
Doesn't look very "beat" to me.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
arnold cheshire
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Re: Why are we going on Strike ?

Post by arnold cheshire »

fishtank wrote:
bringon4dayweeks wrote:yes its all gone daft the cwu have been beat
The company accepted our offer for fresh talks and these began on Wednesday 23rd October.

In commencing these talks the company also agreed that the previously rejected offer was off the table and they confirmed that they would make a new improved offer on the key aspects of the dispute.
Doesn't look very "beat" to me.
does to me even the cwu are only having one day strike and thats it . one postie said to my the cwu are not stopping me doing my docket .
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bringon4dayweeks wrote:one postie said to my the cwu are not stopping me doing my docket .
s**t,let's call the whole thing off.
One of maisy's mates want's his docket. :whistle
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Re: Why are we going on Strike ?

Post by arnold cheshire »

fishtank wrote:
bringon4dayweeks wrote:one postie said to my the cwu are not stopping me doing my docket .
s**t,let's call the whole thing off.
One of maisy's mates want's his docket. :whistle
the whole things going to be a joke fish one day strike then in clearing it the day after :funneh makes the job harder cheers CWU
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Re: Why are we going on Strike ?

Post by UnhappyGremlin »

The one day strike is just the start.
After it, I fully expect that the CWU will give RM a week, maybe two for further talks.
During which time, I believe they will announce a second ballot for boycotting etc.
And announce further rolling strikes with a start date, and continuing indefinitely.
Sometimes, I wish I wasn't a Rep.
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Re: Why are we going on Strike ?

Post by Martin Walsh »

why are some people so negative. The stakes are high. What the union is asking for and seeking through negotations no other union has achieved. What we are fighting for on terms and conditions with no outsourcing , no franchising. , no two tier workforce and the protection of all our terms and conditions including such things as our current annual leave entitlements , seniority , shift payments , reserved rights payments are massive and remember the more Royal Mail give on these the less profits Royal Mail and the new shareholders will make as basically 70 percent of all costs are our terms and conditions.

On pay we are still awaiting a new improved offer which Royal Mail have already said they will present? They did offer a new pay offer a couple of weeks ago and then withdrew it when the CWU said they would reject it. Now the fact is without the ballot there would be no new offer.

Royal Mail have changes their pension proposals , and offered improvements to the defined contributions scheme which people after 2008 are in. There is still a way to go on pensions including the legal binding guarantees.

On work place issues talks are still going on.

In terms of the strike , the result was good , yes there will be a few areas where there will be going into work but the majority will support the strike. Royal mails Christmas pressure period starts from the 4th November. It is the same day when most regional managers have said they will not being put in revisons from this date till after Christmas.

This is a fight which is too important to start arguing about what day we should strike on. RDCs and VOCs and outward parts of Mail centres are heavy on Monday.