Too late to strike!?

[Mr Bob]

CWU caught sleepwalking again

I can't help but think that had we been on strike already the Government might have been forced to back down.
The CWU would certainly have been in a stronger position to negotiate T&C at the very least.
Now that the business and Government have got their way they will just dig their heels in and it is going to be so much harder now to get any meaningful deal.
I remain hopeful though that the CWU can pull something out of the bag.

[TrueBlueTerrier]

There is an different way of looking at things though. Could it be that the Government are reacting to the CWU rather than the Union being behind the curve.

We have a Union gathering of 2,000 reps with Moya in attendance - the government react by announcing a timetable for privatisation.

The Union pass formal notification to RM of a ballot - the government react by commencing the sell off process,

The Union announce that the ballot result with be on 15 October - the government decide that the 15 Oct as the day when trading starts.



Whoever is being led round by a donkey I don't know but there are arguments for both sides. I am hoping its us who have them on the run not that the Union is being slow to react. I suppose it all depends on how its presented and what the agenda of the presenter is.

[BingBong]

There is an different way of looking at things though. Could it be that the Government are reacting to the CWU rather than the Union being behind the curve.

We have a Union gathering of 2,000 reps with Moya in attendance - the government react by announcing a timetable for privatisation.

The Union pass formal notification to RM of a ballot - the government react by commencing the sell off process,

The Union announce that the ballot result with be on 15 October - the government decide that the 15 Oct as the day when trading starts.



Whoever is being led round by a donkey I don't know but there are arguments for both sides. I am hoping its us who have them on the run not that the Union is being slow to react. I suppose it all depends on how its presented and what the agenda of the presenter is.

I do agree with you on this.i do think that RM are worried. If it was a done deal then they wouldn't be sending us relentless junk in the post. I have a bit of faith. Let's hope it's justified.

[Dan2000]

Lot's of people will use this has an excuse to vote NO in the ballot they are just looking to justify it Stand up for your terms and conditions don't let Royal mail scare you

[UnhappyGremlin]

Lot's of people will use this has an excuse to vote NO in the ballot they are just looking to justify it Stand up for your terms and conditions don't let Royal mail scare you

Which is what RM wants.
Already voted YES

[krussel]

Lot's of people will use this has an excuse to vote NO in the ballot they are just looking to justify it Stand up for your terms and conditions don't let Royal mail scare you

Which is what RM wants.
Already voted YES

Ditto.

[BernardBresslaw]

I really can't understand why anyone would vote no, unless they have been smoking crack. Who would vote for a pay cut and loss of benefits?

Likewise if anyone crosses the picket line, when the inevitable happens, I think it could get messy.

[hampshireman]

I really can't understand why anyone would vote no, unless they have been smoking crack. Who would vote for a pay cut and loss of benefits?

Likewise if anyone crosses the picket line, when the inevitable happens, I think it could get messy.

In our office we get crack as a staff benefit. Helps us get round the walk

[k979aaa]

I really can't understand why anyone would vote no, unless they have been smoking crack. Who would vote for a pay cut and loss of benefits?

Likewise if anyone crosses the picket line, when the inevitable happens, I think it could get messy.

In our office we get crack as a staff benefit. Helps us get round the walk

It will be withdrawn forthwith with privatisation as would your terms and conditions and employment rights!. I say Crack on and vote YES or you will be f**ked before your time!

[freelunch]

It's not a case of too late for staff to strike, rather it's too early for RM privatisation to go ahead.

An agreement should have been made earlier to enable the government to secure the best price for their sale.
This is very poor oversight by government, the bankers and very poor RM management.
Vote to strike and keep the pressure on to reach a deal.

[Shambles]

It's not a case of too late for staff to strike, rather it's too early for RM privatisation to go ahead.

An agreement should have been made earlier to enable the government to secure the best price for their sale. Muppets

This is very poor oversight by government, the bankers and very poor RM management. RM are notoriously incompetant so are our Goverments and Bankers so the 'Norm' then

Vote YES to strike and keep the pressure on to reach a deal.

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That poor oversight is our blessing

[slave]

I really can't understand why anyone would vote no, unless they have been smoking crack. Who would vote for a pay cut and loss of benefits?

As it is we could get a pay rise, I have no idea what strings are attached to it though. So as it stands it would not be a pay cut, you sound like RM chiefs coming out with twisted words like that.

As has been said previously, the union will not get an everlasting deal, it will be short term. Once that short term is over (let's go with RM's vision, 3 years) then that is when the real fight will begin for your job/pay/benefits/rights - the only thing the union can hope to achieve now is perhaps 3 years of security. So many people have their heads in the clouds about this current strike they can't see the bigger picture: privatisation is real, it's not going away and will be with us for a long time to come (I don't even believe Labour will have the balls to renationalise RM, the cost and hassle will no doubt be far too much), jobs will be lost (and that includes managers - where are they?) profit will be king, it's a fact of life and something you'll all have to live with.

As it is RM will be glad of a yes vote and for industrial action to take place across the country, then they can withdraw whatever payment it was (no idea what amount it was, but it was payable only to offices not taking industrial action) - they'll save a fortune which will sit nicely in the likes of Moya and her cronies pockets.

[k979aaa]

So defeatist I bet you would not get off your backside?

[slave]

I like defeatism, it brings a sense of chaotic realism to the proceedings.

Right now, my backside is in a comfy chair, it's warm and I'm not getting up, although I don't think my backside should be open for discussion on a public forum.

[k979aaa]

I like defeatism, it brings a sense of chaotic realism to the proceedings.

Right now, my backside is in a comfy chair, it's warm and I'm not getting up, although I don't think my backside should be open for discussion on a public forum.

Well get of that comfy chair and VOTE don't sit on the fence or not VOTE it is the same I want all to VOTE all it takes is a cross in a box and get off your comfy chair and walk to a post box you will walk for longer once it is privatised!