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major_eyeswater
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The opt out form.

Post by major_eyeswater »

The area processing rep at greenford mail centre mr geoff Loftus has told his members not to opt out of the free shares.
IcanthelpthewayIam
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Post by IcanthelpthewayIam »

major_eyeswater wrote:The area processing rep at greenford mail centre mr geoff Loftus has told his members not to opt out of the free shares.
and the problem with that is?

no one should be opting out of these, we may not agree with privatisation and will be fighting against it, but opting out of these will achieve absolutely nothing except losing money for the member who does opt out,
Shambles
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Post by Shambles »

Quite right...why opt out of something that is 'worthless and with more strings attached, than an Orchestra of Harps? '

Also, why give RM the heads up on the Volume of members who WILL vote YES at Ballot?

The Shares are a smoke screen.... :shock:
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chickenwittle
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Post by chickenwittle »

the union need to careful not to pin this ballot on privatisation because most at my office feel this is something that is out of our hands and that we will struggle to stop.Also the usual suspects will be drawn in at the thought of a few extra quid and free shares.They need to highlight that this is also about our pay and future conditions and pensions or i can see the ballot being a bit of a flop.
Shaman Mao
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Post by Shaman Mao »

I'm struggling to get my head round the number of people in our office who think they'll be better off in a few years if we get sold. In fact, it's giving me a headache.
Their tunnel vision seems to be focussed on the bribe (sorry, shares). If they took the blinkers off they might notice the inevitable erosion of terms and conditions that will happen.
God knows how many of them will vote YES. As usual, the loudmouths are all slating the union and stating that they'll be coming into work. Where do these pillocks think their T&Cs came from in the first place?
Lounge Lizard
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Post by Lounge Lizard »

Shaman Mao wrote:I'm struggling to get my head round the number of people in our office who think they'll be better off in a few years if we get sold. In fact, it's giving me a headache.
Their tunnel vision seems to be focussed on the bribe (sorry, shares). If they took the blinkers off they might notice the inevitable erosion of terms and conditions that will happen.
God knows how many of them will vote YES. As usual, the loudmouths are all slating the union and stating that they'll be coming into work. Where do these pillocks think their T&Cs came from in the first place?
Yes, of course we will be worse off after privatisation, but a 'yes' vote will NOT stop privatisation. :sad:
rainbowwarrior72
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Re: The opt out form.

Post by rainbowwarrior72 »

chickenwittle wrote:the union need to careful not to pin this ballot on privatisation because most at my office feel this is something that is out of our hands and that we will struggle to stop.Also the usual suspects will be drawn in at the thought of a few extra quid and free shares.They need to highlight that this is also about our pay and future conditions and pensions or i can see the ballot being a bit of a flop.

I agree with you its about the terms and conditions and the pension fiasco now I think we could get a better deal. I've told Dave Ward that the National CWU have to buck their ideas up and actually have something that is achieveable for us to aim for. A lot of members feel that Dave and Billy are out of touch from their HQ on CWU Towers
bogstandard
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Post by bogstandard »

privatisation is a separate issue, we are not being balloted on privatisation.
We NEED to make this point understood, the ballot is NOT about privatisation.
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Red Robbo
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Post by Red Robbo »

It seems Billy & Dave have distanced themselves from privatisation associated with the ballot for I/A, they are now saying the Union is fundamentaly opposed to privatisation and would not tell members to opt - out in getting free shares either.