Howdy y'all from Sales

[POSTMAN]

Now I know most posties are smart and intelligent but IWW & POSTMAN much be watching too much CBeebies while on strike action as last time I looked the CWU rejected 2.5% pay rise offer from RM so therefore, this dispute is (in part) about PAY!

Ultimately my friends it's all about money otherwise you'd move to Cuba or work down in Charing Cross serving cups of tea to the homeless (which is a worthwhile activity by the way). So drop you're socialist indignation and get real, coz I'm sure you have to pay your mortgage or council rent like everyone else!

Oh yeah, I did get a bonus last year, it was about £8,500 (b4 tax). And I can see the steam coming out if IWW ears but that bonus covered for the year 06/07: 42 nights away from home; leaving home at 5:30am and getting home after 9:00pm (with no docket allowed, you lucky people!!); 27,512 miles driven on a account portfolio worth £35,000,000 to RM retail.

Now £8.5k sounds like "woohoo, party time!" but is actually worth against my accounts of 0.0002428%... go on, work it out AND my pay rise was 2.5% too!

So you see, we are all in the same boat... lol

I (and where have and how many times have i f***ing said it!!) personally give people from the other side loads of room on here,but don't act the arse!!
I think you're on the wrong site mate!!

Like i said,it aint all about pay,and you know it!!
And am not interested in your pathetic wind ups.

[IWW Fellow Worker]

Now I know most posties are smart and intelligent but IWW & POSTMAN much be watching too much CBeebies while on strike action as last time I looked the CWU rejected 2.5% pay rise offer from RM so therefore, this dispute is (in part) about PAY!

Ultimately my friends it's all about money otherwise you'd move to Cuba or work down in Charing Cross serving cups of tea to the homeless (which is a worthwhile activity by the way). So drop you're socialist indignation and get real, coz I'm sure you have to pay your mortgage or council rent like everyone else!

Oh yeah, I did get a bonus last year, it was about £8,500 (b4 tax). And I can see the steam coming out if IWW ears but that bonus covered for the year 06/07: 42 nights away from home; leaving home at 5:30am and getting home after 9:00pm (with no docket allowed, you lucky people!!); 27,512 miles driven on a account portfolio worth £35,000,000 to RM retail.

Now £8.5k sounds like "woohoo, party time!" but is actually worth against my accounts of 0.0002428%... go on, work it out AND my pay rise was 2.5% too!

So you see, we are all in the same boat... lol

I (and where have and how many times have i f***ing said it!!) personally give people from the other side loads of room on here,but don't act the arse!!
I think you're on the wrong site mate!!

Like i said,it aint all about pay,and you know it!!
And am not interested in your pathetic wind ups.

It's another Gaza 9000 or Harold Hadrada mate!

[POSTMAN]

On and just clocked your e-mail,you on the Ferrier then?

[L Tommo]

POSTMAN MATE... Ive given up wasting my time with these wank stains.. Really this turd is just goading us and getting a rise... I gotta larf at the CBeebies crack... Wot a james.... Such a self opinionated tart.. All singing all dancing RM lacky...


Ive said it before to screws like this and i will say it again...

"IVE SEEN AND HEARD LITTLE DOGS FART BEFORE"


When you and the mods open the door on this site for EVERYONE... IE to name someone who is a non postie.. FOZZIE..

Now when he started on here he did get stick... I myself had a few run ins with him but in time he showed he wasnt here for the WHINED UP.. But helped and told how he felt with no real prejudice... He was a screw and went thru all sorts of jobs... But i dont feel or i think u never felt he took the piss... Not like matey here.... WOT A PRIZED SHITE FOR BRAINS HE REALLY IS.....

Lets not encourage fools to goad us lets just do a democratic thing and ignore the idiot.... When it starts the BULLSHITE Big Al style... SWITCH OFF!!!! If we give these people a stage he will perform on it like Pinochio with the strings of RM on him.....


CUT THE STRINGS AND WATCH HIM THEN..... Just a sad loanly fool...

OUT

[ROCKY]

remember the man is really a sales rep fancy title but same thing really,in all trades the sales team and shopfloor(whatever working title)are miles apart and have different views but especially within rm,and the posts so far proove how little chance there is of rm surviving in my eyes anyway,here we are same employers same paymaster same future and we are at each others throats if rm is to prosper we have to learn to work with each other and where needed stand together united in our games otherwise our leaders will take us snarling at each other to our doom

[dvbuk55]

Bonehead here from Sales... want to say that this nonsense is telling our customers to try the TNT/DX/SMS's and once they've gone, that's it!

You may think you work at the coalface but let me tell you when you're sitting in front of a procurement director saying that they are going to "trial" £8m worth of 2nd class just to "test" the market it ain't bloody funny!

Also, unlike the rest of us in RM you still have access to the MTSF rules which is very generous compared to the Miners, Rover Grp and some Public sector agencies.

And this pay claim is another smoke-screen, do you think you should get more cash than a nurse who works in A&E in London on a Saturday night suffering abuse and harassment???

And before anyone starts on me about being anti-union, I have always been part of the union of wherever I've worked: Dept of Environment=CSPA; BT=NCU; Parcelforce=UCW; RM=CMA!So get real lads and end this nonsense before we all end up like RailTrack and sold off for a £1 to DHL because that's what will happen and it almost did back in 2001 when we were losing a £1m per day.

Yes well from the number of companies you've worked for you have obviously a well developed sense of loyalty. You aren't party to the MTSF because the CMA sold you out - or more likely you bottled it. Don't for one minute think you are bullet proof - you'll be working for TNT soon selling the same products for RM to deliver - but you won't be paid the over inflated wages the likes of you get now. We actually deliver the product - whereas you are oh so expendable.

[bonehead_2002]

It seems that I've got to some of you... well all I'm here for is to tell the truth... yes, it's you lot who do the back-breaking work on earlies, lates and nights but it's me and my colleagues who have to face clients and tell them we ain't gonna collect/sort/deliver your mail for a week.

I just wish I could take some of you harder ones in with me and actually hear it direct from a customer who will move £10m worht of mail from RM and see what mealy-mouthed CWU answer you would give and then the client would say, "that ain't my problem pal, just bloody collect my mail that I pay for!"

Just to let you know, I've been with RM/PF since 1991 so I haven't jumped from job-to-job, so I have loyalty. Have you?

Also I may have being a bit cheeky to one or two of you but I never resorted to actual words like: w****r etc... just goes to show that some of us are pre-destined to remain posties for the rest of their natural.

And yes, I am most probably expendable by RM but I know I've got the skills to get another job around the same pay, can YOU say that... think about it... is this what is really behind all this, the fear of not being re-employed on such a easy working life by TNT/DHL/UPS.

[ROCKY]

mainly for me is the aim to protect what ive worked for and been promised over the years and to try and leave something for those who come after me,and i have to be honest i actually like turning up at peoples homes and dealing with them every day,not as good as it used to be thanks to all the adverts you lot keep pushing our way,oh and yes this is supposed to be a service,i am in no rush for the day the nhs and fire brigade do a credit check before coming to my house,and before you argue about the word service we pay taxes to the govt to provide these services over the years they have been depleted but the taxes never go down

[dvbuk55]

It seems that I've got to some of you... well all I'm here for is to tell the truth... yes, it's you lot who do the back-breaking work on earlies, lates and nights but it's me and my colleagues who have to face clients and tell them we ain't gonna collect/sort/deliver your mail for a week.

I just wish I could take some of you harder ones in with me and actually hear it direct from a customer who will move £10m worht of mail from RM and see what mealy-mouthed CWU answer you would give and then the client would say, "that ain't my problem pal, just bloody collect my mail that I pay for!"

Just to let you know, I've been with RM/PF since 1991 so I haven't jumped from job-to-job, so I have loyalty. Have you?

Also I may have being a bit cheeky to one or two of you but I never resorted to actual words like: w****r etc... just goes to show that some of us are pre-destined to remain posties for the rest of their natural.

And yes, I am most probably expendable by RM but I know I've got the skills to get another job around the same pay, can YOU say that... think about it... is this what is really behind all this, the fear of not being re-employed on such a easy working life by TNT/DHL/UPS.

It must be wonderful to have that profound knowledge of ones' own worth - exactly what are the salaries for those who sell "The Big Issue". You seem to think that someone who has a £10Million contract to move about is important - we think Mrs Jones letter to Grandson on his birthday is important. That is the difference between us - you believe in money and we believe in service.

We believe that Royal Mail has been hijacked by people most foul and you believe they are ubermenschen. We believe that people are important not balance sheets and we believe in fair play not Postcomm.

As for my question about the MTSF - it would appear once more we are on the picket line and you have sold out for 30 pieces of silver shame on you!

[bonehead_2002]

I don't have profound knowledge, just a real a self assesment of my skill set, experience and attitiude, it's not difficult really, you should try it sometime!

I would never run down those sellers of the Big Issue as who knows what misfortune has led them to do that... which is my point, currently we have our future in our hands but striking means that luxury of choice will be taken away and not by RM Board or Postcomm or Govt but customers and our competitors.

And it's all very well having a lovely chat with Mrs Miggins at No43 about her arthritis and the letter she sent last week to her grandson (her 3rd all year) but we both know she and her kind ain't gonna pay our wages. The reason I want more large business cash is that I have a mortgage to pay and family to feed, so yes, I do believe in money if it means I don't end up on the streets!

It must be very liberating not to care about money... er, what's this dispute about again???

If you want RM just to be "service" then get your union to campaign for RM to re-join the civil service and become a govt department and that way all our problems would be solved... crap pay, worse managers than RM but gilt-edged final salary pension!

[IWW Fellow Worker]

It must be very liberating not to care about money... er, what's this dispute about again???

What a turd eh? He turns up on here and doesn't even know what the dispute is about. Get your head from Leighton's arse and find out.

[bonehead_2002]

<sigh> IWW: I've alrady told you that cash is part of the whole dispute otherwise you would accept 2.5% but you lot have rejected it.

I wonder if you still read the Beano and Jackie coz the stuff you come out with is pure comic book... RM is in the crapper... all this job and finish for a 8hr shift has got to end. The pension is shot to buggery (all because of your mate Gordon B raiding the funds to pay for layabouts on tax credits) also, if we need part-timers then so be it. When PF went for owner-drivers didn't hear a peep out of you then...

I notice that not one of you have answered my point about what to say to clients who spend £millions on this wonderful "service".

As in the immortal words of Tony Montana: "You're all cock-er-roaches!"

[IWW Fellow Worker]

I notice that not one of you have answered my point

Why? Who do you think you are? You're only an office boy living off our earnings.

[dvbuk55]

I don't have profound knowledge, just a real a self assesment of my skill set, experience and attitiude, it's not difficult really, you should try it sometime!

I wouldn't confuse self assessment, experience and attitude with self importance if I was you.

I have been in service of one description or another for over 40 years. It is more important to me that I do a good job regardless of the reward, rather than do a job, good, bad or indifferent merely for money. It is an indictment of my generation that we have bred a generation like yours fostered by the Thatcher years which acknowledged that greed and self was more important than service.

The strike? For me it is about principle not price. A theory your union obviously doesn't subscribe to. No ballot for you then - merely obeying the instruction from above - then that is the norm for your kind.

By the by assesment has two S's'. Don't let your high powered customers see your obvious educational failings - they may go to TNT where the sales staff have degrees!

[bigsharkboy]

bonehead by name dickhead by nature mods bin this wind up merchant send him back to the sewer he crawled up from