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How is a van share suppose to work?

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NewPostieUK
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Re: How is a van share suppose to work?

Post by NewPostieUK »

andy3665 wrote: He fills his trolley with his loop and then takes as many parcels as he can squeeze in his bags!!
er... that's exactly what he's meant to be doing, except his bags are meant to be filled back at the office.

Why on earth would a passenger not take something if there is room in his bag?
justdeno
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Re: How is a van share suppose to work?

Post by justdeno »

Why don't people when sorting take note of the oversize parcels, and then put the letters with the oversize parcels so only one delivery. I do this (am rural) as I park and walk certain roads, thus saving time. :Very Happy
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Re: How is a van share suppose to work?

Post by mandelsons_toenail »

justdeno wrote:Why don't people when sorting take note of the oversize parcels, and then put the letters with the oversize parcels so only one delivery. I do this (am rural) as I park and walk certain roads, thus saving time. :Very Happy
Exactly.

Our loops have been designed to be equal size except the first one.

Works a treat.

Both guys help each other.

No slacking

Brilliant
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Re: How is a van share suppose to work?

Post by capricorn »

Does anyone put letters & parcels together to be done by the driver to cut down on trolley or pouch weight?
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Re: How is a van share suppose to work?

Post by fishtank »

andy3665 wrote: He fills his trolley with his loop and then takes as many parcels as he can squeeze in his bags!!.
Nobody should be squeezing packets into bags.
Not only do you risk damaging the item,the bags on an LWT must be able to be closed and fastened for security reasons.
If you're pulling a trolley with stuff sticking out the top it will at some point either fall out or someone will help themselves to it,especially if you're at the door and the trolley isn't..
If you're still carrying a bag on park&loop and stuffing packets into it then it's not a security risk you're just a mug.
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Re: How is a van share suppose to work?

Post by mandelsons_toenail »

Lets be honest .

Even on a 40 min loop.

Of the two bags on your lwt only one is full and I use the term full loosely.

You have another bag to get 5-10 packets parcels In Size dependant.

If it fits take it, me and my partner do this, if one of us gets to the van, we deliver one or two oversize and meet the other.

I don't see the issue here, unless there is no teamwork
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Re: How is a van share suppose to work?

Post by bigcol »

mandelsons_toenail wrote:I don't see the issue here, unless there is no teamwork

Remember, there's no I in Royal Mail.
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Re: How is a van share suppose to work?

Post by fishtank »

mandelsons_toenail wrote:if one of us gets to the van, we deliver one or two oversize and meet the other.

For the purposes of the Road Traffic Act 1988, the driver whose name is last recorded in the logbook will be considered responsible for the roadworthiness and security of the vehicle until responsibility is transferred to the next driver by signature in the logbook. Only the driver whose name is recorded in the logbook may drive the vehicle until responsibility is transferred. Subsequent drivers must carry out at least a “duty” level (roadworthiness) vehicle check before driving and the vehicle logbook must be completed in line with the example used in the Overnight Retention of Vehicles Policy, located in the 6 phase intranet site).
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Re: How is a van share suppose to work?

Post by goldy »

fishtank wrote:
andy3665 wrote: He fills his trolley with his loop and then takes as many parcels as he can squeeze in his bags!!.
Nobody should be squeezing packets into bags.
Not only do you risk damaging the item,the bags on an LWT must be able to be closed and fastened for security reasons.
If you're pulling a trolley with stuff sticking out the top it will at some point either fall out or someone will help themselves to it,especially if you're at the door and the trolley isn't..
If you're still carrying a bag on park&loop and stuffing packets into it then it's not a security risk you're just a mug.
Totally agree mate well said :thumbup
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Re: How is a van share suppose to work?

Post by andy3665 »

Are you the rapper goldy? Or do you have gold teeth? :left:
DB1100
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Re: How is a van share suppose to work?

Post by DB1100 »

clashcityrocker wrote:
DB1100 wrote:I can drive so if the driver has a lot of attendence calls on his loop I can get a few oversize done if I am back first...
No you can't.
One van - one driver.
We both sign for the van,so yes I can.
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Re: How is a van share suppose to work?

Post by fishtank »

DB1100 wrote:We both sign for the van,so yes I can.

No you don't.
You might both sign for the keys but only one person can sign for a van...by entering their name in the vehicle log book.
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Re: How is a van share suppose to work?

Post by dvbuk55 »

fishtank wrote:
DB1100 wrote:We both sign for the van,so yes I can.

No you don't.
You might both sign for the keys but only one person can sign for a van...by entering their name in the vehicle log book.
It was a very grey area and the common trend was to share the driving especially where one loop finished at the van and the second was some way away and even today I am certain people share the driving still, even though they've been told not too. I've even had people coming to sign for the van on park and loop who couldn't drive.................it's a cavalier world these days right enough.
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Re: How is a van share suppose to work?

Post by fishtank »

dvbuk55 wrote:It was a very grey area.
It's not really it's very black and white..

Under Section 172 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 Royal Mail has a legal obligation to provide, when required, details on the identity of any driver using a vehicle at a particular time. In order to fulfil this obligation, the Vehicle Condition & Mileage Logbook (the logbook) will be used as the primary day-to-day control record.

For the purposes of the Road Traffic Act 1988, the driver whose name is last recorded in the logbook will be considered responsible for the roadworthiness and security of the vehicle until responsibility is transferred to the next driver by signature in the logbook. Only the driver whose name is recorded in the logbook may drive the vehicle until responsibility is transferred. Subsequent drivers must carry out at least a “duty” level (roadworthiness) vehicle check before driving and the vehicle logbook must be completed in line with the example used in the Overnight Retention of Vehicles Policy, located in the 6 phase intranet site).

Drivers must be able to provide a detailed and accurate record of vehicle transfer between themselves and another driver/s via the logbook.

It is a very serious offence to drive a vehicle without the appropriate driving licence and necessary permission. Any breach of this condition will be treated under the Royal Mail Conduct Code.


Failure to adhere to these principles may lead to disciplinary action being taken under the Conduct Code and could result in dismissal.

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interesting
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Re: How is a van share suppose to work?

Post by interesting »

Sounds like a old walking week from when I did three rotate
Early's - lates - walking