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TrueBlueTerrier wrote: Graham Bennett, 47, died on July 15 during his regular round on the Ermine estate in temperatures around 25°.
Thought he was indoor staff who was pretty much forced outdoors to cover?

RIP.
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SP115 wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote: Graham Bennett, 47, died on July 15 during his regular round on the Ermine estate in temperatures around 25°.
Thought he was indoor staff who was pretty much forced outdoors to cover?

RIP.
Probably the journalist cannot be bothered with the true facts,just want's the story.
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why do royal mail not treat this hot weather in the same way as they treat the winter they have a adverse weather condition plan for heavy snow in the winter is this not a adverse weather condition they should at least supply us with bottled water ,sun block etc does this not fall under health and safety ,why do a lot of staff feel bullied into doing double shifts etc i feel very sorry for the guy and his family but how many people have had effects of the this hot weather sun stroke etc and not reported it or felt the need to go sick but just carried on regardless due to the back lash from there managers
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I think for the true facts to come out, this needs to investigated by the HSE as there will be no bias other than a safe system of work.

The questions are
Was Mr Bennett on indoor duties for health reason or light duties
Was he intimidated into going out with threats of dire consequences this is where B&H comes into focus
Was the heat a contributory factor to his sudden demise
Did the Chain of command know about his medical condition if any as a matter of record
Did the workload have an impact on his health to the extent that he died from natural causes (this may well have long term consequences for otherwise fit postmen in hot weather)

If it is proven that Royal Mail was negligent, charges will follow
If it was a case of sudden death due to excessive workload and heat,then a safety improvement notice needs to be put in place before any further deliveries can be performed to prevent a re occurrence.


While understandable grievance and hysteria against Royal Mail will not help.
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What I find disgusting is that if the poor fellow had slipped and died on a presscrete driveway we would have had a work time learning session on the dangers of said driveways,this happens and not a peep from Royal mail.
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DB1100 wrote:What I find disgusting is that if the poor fellow had slipped and died on a presscrete driveway we would have had a work time learning session on the dangers of said driveways,this happens and not a peep from Royal mail.

i think they are keeping quiet because of the potential legal liabilities, this is far more serious than a mere slip, this could lead to corporate manslaughter charges if the HSE decides that is the case.




Yes I have nearly slipped on prescrete driveway, they are so fake why bother with them, for the money they may as well build the real thing.
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NWpostie wrote:
DB1100 wrote:What I find disgusting is that if the poor fellow had slipped and died on a presscrete driveway we would have had a work time learning session on the dangers of said driveways,this happens and not a peep from Royal mail.

i think they are keeping quiet because of the potential legal liabilities, this is far more serious than a mere slip, this could lead to corporate manslaughter charges if the HSE decides that is the case.




Yes I have nearly slipped on prescrete driveway, they are so fake why bother with them, for the money they may as well build the real thing.
It's just the fact that it's been complete silence,not a word from Royal mail.
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Or CWU heirarchy
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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Tributes to postman who died during round

http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/Tri ... z2Zal3mF4U" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



A postman who collapsed while delivering mail in Lincoln died of natural causes.

Graham Bennett, 47, died on July 15 during his regular round on the Ermine estate in temperatures around 25°.

And a post-mortem has revealed he died of natural causes.

Tributes have poured in on social network site Facebook, with many of Mr Bennett's friends paying tribute to him.

Lee Marshall Ritchie said: "Will miss you Graham, it was a pleasure to work alongside you in my time at RM, your passing leaves our office in shock and we are still struggling to comprehend everything that's gone on :(. R.I.P my friend."

Andy Burges posted: "Shocked. Can't believe it rip mate."

Royal Mail spokesman Nick Martens, said: "Our thoughts are very much with his family, friends and colleagues at this very sad time.”

Read more: http://www.thisislincolnshire.co.uk/Tri ... z2ZalJydmp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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there you go he died of natural causes. fact he was in 30 deg heat and his heart went sod this for a laugh and stopped makes no diff to the dims. this will happen again and again as the delivery span is now dun in the hottest part of the day. anybody here whos dun 15 years plus knows the early mornings are best but that aint gonna cum back
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Lincox wrote:Or CWU heirarchy
They're as much to blame, in my opinion.

They've led us up the garden path once too bloody often, and as a result of that, the health and safety of Royal Mail workers on deliveries is willfully jeopardized by pig-ignorant management on a daily basis.
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47 and natural causes?
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The end result may have been natural causes, but many things can contribute to that occurring.
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NWpostie wrote:I think for the true facts to come out, this needs to investigated by the HSE as there will be no bias other than a safe system of work.

The questions are
Was Mr Bennett on indoor duties for health reason or light duties
Was he intimidated into going out with threats of dire consequences this is where B&H comes into focus
Was the heat a contributory factor to his sudden demise
Did the Chain of command know about his medical condition if any as a matter of record
Did the workload have an impact on his health to the extent that he died from natural causes (this may well have long term consequences for otherwise fit postmen in hot weather)

If it is proven that Royal Mail was negligent, charges will follow
If it was a case of sudden death due to excessive workload and heat,then a safety improvement notice needs to be put in place before any further deliveries can be performed to prevent a re occurrence.


While understandable grievance and hysteria against Royal Mail will not help.
:sad: I agree. Would he have died that day if he had not been forced to go out? Had he taken ill in the office, then help could have been sent for immediatly.
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I would imagine there are enquiries still going on behind the scenes. A minimum should be an enquiry carried out by an external organisation. I hope that CWU will insist on this happening, and make sure it does happen.
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We had work time drivel this morning and not a mention of this,the the usual crap about dogs,d2d and specials,not a thing about the hot weather despite being asked about the H&S aspects of working in 30 plus heat.
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