One rule for the managers - another for us

Post by **rhino49** » 05 Oct 2007, 06:45

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7029228.stm

From this article it appears that RM have had no problem settling with managers as soon as they make a fuss - yet we are ignored. I like the bit about the respective unions different approaches - as if we haven't been trying to negotiate sensibly for months - what a complete bunch of bastards we work under - it's war chaps and don't forget it.

nelson · Post by **nelson** » 05 Oct 2007, 06:59

Just heard that on the radio. They have sold us down the river AGAIN. This we must not loose. The overpaid managers will now start to gloat. Its like we work for a different RM.

pme2001 · Post by **pme2001** » 05 Oct 2007, 07:24

So the managers get what they want as per usual!......While we get completely Shafted!!!
Right lets win this and p*ss those two tw@ts off!!! Must go...my picket line awaits me!

Post by **baldrick** » 05 Oct 2007, 07:28

What can you expect from that lot of backstabbers. Couldn't expect them to show any backbone, they never have.

Post by **piranha** » 05 Oct 2007, 07:56

The managers main issues were pensions, right? So what the f**k?
Theyve probably been bribed with a new managers bonus scheme
or something....Unbelievable

The contempt management shows
for the real workers in this company is disgusting....every single new
starter at our PDO in the last year have decided to leave and many have
interviews whilst theyre on strike!!

Wild Rover · Post by **Wild Rover** » 05 Oct 2007, 08:12

Not doubt this is where AL/AC have been recently. Instead of looking after "our people", they've obviously ignored our plight and sided with the managers - who let's face it, are overpaid, underworked, not needed etc. Chop a few thousand managers jobs and then you'll see a company with money,

:cfo :lfo

coppertop · Post by **coppertop** » 05 Oct 2007, 08:31

The only reason brown is so silent they do not want to let anyone know how much of our pension fund they have stolen it would be very embarrasing for them as they wish to announce an election. so they have reached an agreement with the dum's that was so trnsparent it is untrue so now we can expect royal mail bully boy tactics to come even faster than before they will use exec action now to force all of thewre changes in

portadown · Post by **portadown** » 05 Oct 2007, 08:38

130,000 off us can beat 2 off them

Post by **stephen500** » 05 Oct 2007, 09:24

Anyone found any actual detail of their deal?

Post by **barkersboy** » 05 Oct 2007, 09:40

Anyone found any actual detail of their deal?

Same question I was thinking about.

Crucially, How did they make a deal on thier pensions and what is the deal?

Post by **de-coded** » 05 Oct 2007, 10:34

I would not be surprised if the managers have been allowed to keep there current pension with no changes at all including leaving at 60, in RM eyes managers are more important than anyone else. On a seperate note everyone I know is going to work today and unable to afford to strike, sad days at the MDEC and yes if I was still with Royal Mail I would be outside.

terrace · Post by **terrace** » 05 Oct 2007, 11:07

How can the Managers agree a pay deal which includes pension reform when the 60 day Pension consultation period has only just started?
Talk about executive action,all parties involved in the Pension consultation -Manager,OPG's,Royal Mail and the Pension Board surely ALL have to agree to a solution.
One party can't simply say yes without the others agreement can they?That's a legal requirement surely?

nelson · Post by **nelson** » 05 Oct 2007, 11:14

Managers always had to leave at 60 until the Age Regs came in. They can agree to what they like, but how many will be left in RM when they are culled?. Not that many me thinks

So it could be a poison chalice. I hope so

TheEngineer · Post by **TheEngineer** » 05 Oct 2007, 11:17

I think your forgetting something here, the business can talk all day long about the pension but if the trustees approve of whatever action they need to take on pensions then it doesn`t matter a flying fluck what we think or want and thats a fact !!!! We can`t do squat apart from moan/strike etc and then well we might have no pension :( All thats going on just now is making sure that there we get the best out of what we have already paid in thus far togethor wiht whats in store, the Union might tell you other wise but from what i got told the other night from our area rep, the pension is gonna change like it or lump it !

BELIAL · Post by **BELIAL** » 05 Oct 2007, 11:17

MDEC101 wrote:I would not be surprised if the managers have been allowed to keep there current pension with no changes at all including leaving at 60, in RM eyes managers are more important than anyone else. On a seperate note everyone I know is going to work today and unable to afford to strike, sad days at the MDEC and yes if I was still with Royal Mail I would be outside.

But you only know two people and one is a docker.

ROYALMAILCHAT

One rule for the managers - another for us

One rule for the managers - another for us

Browns silence