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DOGS-defence against and preventing attack

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Re: DOGS-defence against and preventing attack

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wheresmygiro? wrote:lately on my round there is a block of open flats, with a big bit of grass in the middle, its a proper maze with lots of turns etc and this one bloke has a flippin huge huge great dane, it used to just bark (its bark shakes the ground) and that didnt fuss me, but lately when it seems me it growls and comes bounding across the place going mental and trying to 'get me', the owner thinks its only 'playing' and thinks its funny but its not. its pissing me off, i genuinely nearly punched in it the face the other week. problem is i cant really refuse to deliver because its a whole block of 49 flats, the dog is NEVER on a lead and the owner is just a retard, im pretty sure its gonna bite me soon. happy days. if it does im gonna stamp on its head.
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Re: DOGS-defence against and preventing attack

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monkeymutha wrote:Never been attacked by a big dog, only small dogs.
I was attacked by both at the same time once.
A West Highland Terrier and an Alsatian tag teamed me from around the side of a house.

While I was fighting off the Westie the Alsatian took a chunk out of my arse,that hurt.
I think the little dog was the brains in the outfit,the owner had the Alsatian destroyed,not for my benefit but because she had kids and couldn't trust it any more.

I used to see the Westie after that staring out the window looking smug.
To be honest I think he just used me to get rid of the big dog.
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Re: DOGS-defence against and preventing attack

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wheresmygiro? wrote: problem is i cant really refuse to deliver because its a whole block of 49 flats.
Who told you you can't refuse to deliver to the whole block of 49 flats?
I once brought back a cul-de-sac because a dog I didn't trust was sitting outside the first house.
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Re: DOGS-defence against and preventing attack

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I've also endorsed due to an" all get ye" lurking on a corner
For a sneak attack.
The thing that gets me are the owners who just don't think the dog is wrong for trying to remove parts of you. :d'oh!
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Re: DOGS-defence against and preventing attack

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If your dog is 'left-pawed' it is more likely to attack your postman, study finds
'Left-pawed' animals more likely to act aggressively towards strangers
Dogs are left and right pawed and use one paw over other for tasks
Left paw controlled by right side of brain - linked to negative emotions
By AMANDA WILLIAMS

Left handed dogs are more likely to be aggressive to strangers than those that are right-pawed, a study has found.
Australian academics tested a group of dogs to see which paw they preferred to use for basic tasks and then analysed their behavioural traits.
They found while there was no link with levels of excitability or attention seeking, the animals which were 'left-pawed' were much more likely to act aggressively towards people they did not know.

Left handed dogs are more likely to be aggressive to strangers than their right-pawed friends, a study has found
Like humans, dogs are left and right pawed and prefer to use one paw over the other for tasks.
Similarly to humans, the left paw is controlled by the right side of the brain, which is linked with negative emotions.

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Experts say the findings reflect what has previously been observed in humans.
Dr Luke Schneider, from the University of Adelaide, told the Telegraph left pawed dogs scored almost twice as high as those with no preference, and also higher than dogs with right paws.

Study found animals which were 'left-pawed' were much more likely to act aggressively towards people they did not know
He said: 'There is research in the human world as well that positive and negative emotions can be located in the left and right hemispheres and it seems to go the same way in humans and other animal species, that the negative emotions are located in the right hemisphere. There are many, many overlaps between human and animal brains.'
The experiment, which was published in the Journal of Veterinary Behavior, saw around 75 dogs given a special cylindrical toy with food inside it.
The researchers then watched and noted how the dog interacted with it as they tried to get at the food, marking how many times the dog used its left or right paw.
A third were right-pawed, a third were left, and a third were 'ambilateral' and were able to use both paws equally.
The left pawed dogs scored almost twice as high for stranger aggression than the ambilateral ones and much higher than the righter pawed ones too.
The dogs studied in the experiment included labradors, border collies, golden retrievers and Shetland sheepdogs, but none of them were particularly aggressive.
None of the dogs used in the research had aggression problems.
Researchers now want to carry out more research on animals, specifically those that are more animals.
TAKE THE TEST: FIND OUT IF YOUR PET IS A 'LEFTIE' OR A 'RIGHTIE'
If you teach a dog to shake, which paw does it offer you first and most often?

Fill a toy with something delicious and put it in the center of the dog's visual field. Which paw does it use to touch the toy first? Which paw does the dog use to hold the toy?

Put something sticky on a dog or cat's nose. Which paw does the animal use to remove it?

Place a treat or a piece of cheese under a sofa, just beyond a dog or cat's reach. Which paw does it use to try and get it out?

Dangle a toy over a cat's head. Which paw does it lift to bat it?

Put a treat under a bowl. Which paw does the cat or dog use to move it?

When a dog wants in the backdoor, which paw does it 'knock' with?


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DB1100
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Re: DOGS-defence against and preventing attack

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If your dog is out of control it is more likely to attack a postman,there you go a much shorter version.
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Re: DOGS-defence against and preventing attack

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And don't be offended when said postman
"Acts in self defence"
I don't go to work to be bitten or threatened.
Anyone else astounded by people opening doors with an out of control Dog then get asked
Why are you knocking the door and going back out? :d'oh!
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Re: DOGS-defence against and preventing attack

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On a new round to me today, Had a great big rottie come pondering around the corner. Just looked at me, Then came upto me started sniffing, His tail was stern, He was pissed off... I was In his Garden.. I slowly backed off.

No dog signs, NOTHING on the frame in DO, Sod all.

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Re: DOGS-defence against and preventing attack

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So what about if you see a sign at a gate that says "Beware of the dog. Enter at your own risk". Can you refuse to deliver there if you don't want to take the risk and how do you endorse the mail.
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Re: DOGS-defence against and preventing attack

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cyberheater wrote:So what about if you see a sign at a gate that says "Beware of the dog. Enter at your own risk". Can you refuse to deliver there if you don't want to take the risk and how do you endorse the mail.
Yes - as long as you are willing/able to explain your decision on the risk, they can't touch you.
For example.

You rattled the gate and the dog barked but you could not see him.
You saw the sign and the front door was open.
You saw the sign, but no sign of the dog, however the letter box was out of sight so you assessed the risk as too high.

etc ect

However, I saw a sign and decided not to deliver - I wouldn't like to say how that would go down.
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Re: DOGS-defence against and preventing attack

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
cyberheater wrote:So what about if you see a sign at a gate that says "Beware of the dog. Enter at your own risk". Can you refuse to deliver there if you don't want to take the risk and how do you endorse the mail.
Yes - as long as you are willing/able to explain your decision on the risk, they can't touch you.
For example.

You rattled the gate and the dog barked but you could not see him.
You saw the sign and the front door was open.
You saw the sign, but no sign of the dog, however the letter box was out of sight so you assessed the risk as too high.

etc ect

However, I saw a sign and decided not to deliver - I wouldn't like to say how that would go down.
Thanks. Very useful advise.
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Re: DOGS-defence against and preventing attack

Post by HeilMoya »

My pet hate in the summer is finding out that a number of houses on a walk you cover actually have dogs that you didn't think they had throughout the winter.
If there's a part of the garden you can't see and therefore you can't be sure if a dog's there or not before you enter, RATTLE THE GATE loudly. The dog will usually run out from nowhere up to the gate and so you've saved yourself from a "silent assassin" attack. Then simply endorse and walk away :whistle
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Re: DOGS-defence against and preventing attack

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I also use my bundle/packet as a shield when unsure if a dogs about.especially when delivering packets to areas I've not been on walk.
Wouldn't be the first time someone's dog has been held at bay by their mail/packet.
Seriously though there should be more training on dog defence.
Luckily our do is pretty supportive I.e endorsing due to dog at large.
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Re: DOGS-defence against and preventing attack

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I once used my pouch to defend against an attack by an German shepherd. Didn't work. It ragged it out of the way and then tried to rip me arm off.
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Re: DOGS-defence against and preventing attack

Post by catch22 »

how are you supposed to remember where the dogs are? when you followed the correct procedure of reading the walk log?

dog got me... dont deliver there no more... serves them right... got me twice too- told them the mutt needed a bullet... threw my mail and bag at it, and when i didnt have anything left to thrown i put the boot in....
next time it got me i threw a bin at it!
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