taking the p###s

[bigal383]

Hiya guys really need some information here our park and loops been in now since january and 24 hour contracts most of us work 3 days as from today we had a notice saying they have changed our days to 4 days starting this monday. its saturday tomorrow so this is impossible to sort and to be honest i cant do 4 days because of the wife working and childcare, if i had to id have to give the job up.....

can they change us from 3 days to 4 days??

[demon]

THEY must give you 28 days notice plus ask for a family friendly form put it in if its rejected take it to acas

[kitkatchunky]

they are trying the same at our office today dom said its either that or lapse good old park n loop.

[celerycelery]

What's changed now since January? Surely the 8 hours work you do each day still needs to be done, so why reduce you to 6 hours a day over 4 days. Have you a rep? Did you sign for a 3 day week under family friendly?

[kitkatchunky]

the part timers didn't sign for a round as we are waiting for some 1that is off sick there for the dom has said he can change the days we work.

[celerycelery]

DOM cant change the days you work if your on a set rota. Only leave reserves would probably end up with different days off each week as it depends on what they are covering.

[General Mannerheim]

THEY must give you 28 days notice plus ask for a family friendly form put it in if its rejected take it to acas

No they don't have to give you 28 days notice that is a myth,it can be whatever is written in the contract of employment or can be varied by mutal consent of the parties involved.If the employer however tries to vary a term of the employment contract but does not get the employee's consent,that variation is not recognised as lawful.(Rigby v Ferodo Ltd 1987).

However ,the courts and tribunals will treat the employee as having consented to the variation if he/she does not object to the change within a reasonable period of time.

[clashcityrocker]

THEY must give you 28 days notice plus ask for a family friendly form put it in if its rejected take it to acas

The 28 days is the time it takes to go through the Industrial Relations Framework.
If the rep hasn't gone to disagreement over the change, then there is no 28 days.

If they are bringing the changes in by Executive Action your only recourse is to go and stand on the gate.

[kitkatchunky]

THEY must give you 28 days notice plus ask for a family friendly form put it in if its rejected take it to acas

The 28 days is the time it takes to go through the Industrial Relations Framework.
If the rep hasn't gone to disagreement over the change, then there is no 28 days.

If they are bringing the changes in by Executive Action your only recourse is to go and stand on the gate.

not looking good then is it.

[bigal383]

so what do we do quit royal mail??just because the dom wants brownie points? we got put on 3 day weeks for a reason ive worked my life around the 3 days eg childcare so what are we meant to do let them do this to us??????

[bigal383]

sureley the union cant let this happen .....

[Sidley]

You are the union so don't let it. If your rep is s**t go to the area rep but do it NOW anyway just in case.

[banddy]

THEY must give you 28 days notice plus ask for a family friendly form put it in if its rejected take it to acas

No they don't have to give you 28 days notice that is a myth,it can be whatever is written in the contract of employment or can be varied by mutal consent of the parties involved.If the employer however tries to vary a term of the employment contract but does not get the employee's consent,that variation is not recognised as lawful.(Rigby v Ferodo Ltd 1987).

However ,the courts and tribunals will treat the employee as having consented to the variation if he/she does not object to the change within a reasonable period of time.

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yep

you must raise the complaint with the manager as a grievance.
included in the letter should be the reasons for complaint, for example your problems with childcare.

has this happened to the full-timers, either now or in the past.

it may be that you have a case of less favourable treatment...not saying there is, only highlighting the possibility

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[kitkatchunky]

at our office its sorted thanks to the rep involved:-)

[DGP1]

As CCR says, you should be on the gate but you need the majority of the office to go with you..........I personally don't know how many in my office would go out (I know I would to protect even those I don't like but I doubt it would be reciprocated ).