BT2010 & BSI

[pop it in pete]

Where can I find further information on the subject of BSI be it 100, 75 or whatever. Ive tried the web but finding difficult to find examples of where BSI has been used elsewhere.

[Budfrog]

Where can I find further information on the subject of BSI be it 100, 75 or whatever. Ive tried the web but finding difficult to find examples of where BSI has been used elsewhere.

Hi Pete,

I am in the middle of moving so my books are put away and I can't therefore copy the relevant pages from them for you however as I have said before:

BSI (known as the 0-100 rating scale) is the British Standard Institute measure for work rate and is the one used in Royal Mail.

Assuming a worker worked at 75BSI and took his RA (Relaxation Allowance typically around 12-15%) and any Contingency Allowance for the task he would produce an EP of 75.

75BSI in outside industry is known as 'dayrate' which is the term used for a qualified worker who is well motivated.
100BSI is normally only achieved by a qualified worker who is on some form of incentive, financial or non-financial. (Piecework, Bonus, Job and Finish).

The Institute of Management Services governs Industrial Engineers as used in RM : http://www.ims-productivity.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The International Labour Organisation is the international body that wrote the Work Study guide which is used as the foundation for the IMS qualifications: http://goo.gl/sfo5j" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In terms of other organisations that use BSi ... I have worked for London Underground, Electrolux and a number of manufacturing companies that use it. Most councils set their timer standards for maintenance etc using it. It is the standard by which times are set against tasks and can be used for costing as well as workload (as used in RM).

[pop it in pete]

Many thanks Bud, I too am ex LUL, Circle and Ham and City based at Edgware Road. Never came across BSI driving trains though, whilst at Stonebridge Park as a TM there was lots of talk about productivity etc with each task times to the second. The case for a standard BSI rate of 75 with incentives for increased productivity is a very strong one. What I can never understand is why this was all covered off quite well for the mail centres but some how got well and truly balls up in the delivery sector

[Budfrog]

Many thanks Bud, I too am ex LUL, Circle and Ham and City based at Edgware Road. Never came across BSI driving trains though, whilst at Stonebridge Park as a TM there was lots of talk about productivity etc with each task times to the second. The case for a standard BSI rate of 75 with incentives for increased productivity is a very strong one. What I can never understand is why this was all covered off quite well for the mail centres but some how got well and truly balls up in the delivery sector

I was DTMS based Nr Ealing Common Depot but part of Acton Works. Travelled to all depots setting and agreeing standard times for maintenance which formed part of their productivity agreement. Also a project co-ordinator on safety related modification work which was driven by accidents etc, eg Kids using the drivers handrails to joyride between stations on the district line ... and falling off.

But I digress ....

[whatamess!!]

Why can't each office that have completed a revision be put into a database to see what BSI prep and IPS was planned at??

or would it all come back 100%, thats why there are so many failures

[obscurityknocks]

I think its a massive reason why some offices are failing. Simple explanation is if your planning on 100 (despite say your office is really at 85) and that kicks out you need 200 mins to do prep for your own walk and 100 mins of other indoor work (i.e IPS or other prep). But really at 85BSI you need 230 mins to prep walk and can only do 70 mins of other indoor work. Its still the same amount of indoor hours - 300 mins but its shifted to give your more time on your frame and less on IPS. In my personnel opinion these new revisions don't give you enough time to prep your own walk.