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Re: attendance procedure

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fishtank wrote:I can tell you something brothermagrew...managers are still in the dark.
No cascading been happening in our area.
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Re: attendance procedure

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To be fair it is happening in the South East And Eastern Regions. The first event was directors and divisional reps then area reps , DSMs and MCMs and then it has to be rolled out to local reps and DOMs and Work Area Managers. Our rolls outs will not be complete till the 25th. But they are happening .
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Re: attendance procedure

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i have a stage 1 and 1 absent of 9 days will i be off a stage in 6 months when new attendance procedure is in
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Re: attendance procedure

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brazil1212 wrote:i have a stage 1 and 1 absent of 9 days will i be off a stage in 6 months when new attendance procedure is in
yes
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Re: attendance procedure

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Thanks for that :nana
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Re: attendance procedure

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Starts 27th May.....Have we had a letter explaining it...NO!
WTL session on it this week?....No the usual crap of we are all s**t at our jobs and if you don't do x,y and z you will be conducted.
Nice to be informed eh. :roll:
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Re: attendance procedure

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Sherpas Rule wrote:
General Mannerheim wrote:Starts 27th May.....Have we had a letter explaining it...NO!
WTL session on it this week?....No the usual crap of we are all s**t at our jobs and if you don't do x,y and z you will be conducted.
Nice to be informed eh. :roll:
If it wasn't for this site blah blah blah etc. :Very Happy
Just got a letter from RM about it today. It doesn't go into much detail though, doesn't mention the 6 month thing for a start.
Doesn't say much really, does it?
Just that a new system/agreed procedure is in place to start Monday(well Tuesday really), and that managers are now supposed to treat all cases on the individual merits or circumstances relating to them. And, according to my boss, they can no longer be instructed to issue stages by their bosses above them. We'll see..... :hmmmm
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Re: attendance procedure

Post by Danelectro »

attendance procedure letter from Royal Mail HR.

An A4 letter and info sheet with pop out office telephone number :chuckle to introduce the new agreement- yet after much joint agreement babble they fail to actually to say what the agreement is or tell you what the new 'clear' attendance standards are.

Maybe the story I heard is true about a branch official saying that they are worried members take even more time off when they work out its 6 month and clear.
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Re: attendance procedure

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So I can take six montths off sick and then my Stage One will drop off? :nana
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Re: attendance procedure

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DavidUK wrote:So I can take six montths off sick and then my Stage One will drop off? :nana
No, lol. But it will after a six month return to work with acceptable attendance
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Re: attendance procedure

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So if the pro's are off stages in 6 months what are the cons?
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Re: attendance procedure

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tetley smooth wrote:So if the pro's are off stages in 6 months what are the cons?

Its a little more complicated so that gives unscrupulous posties/managers more scope to fiddle the system.

The contact requirements at first glance seem more restrictive.

After 6 months of being on a stage you're clear, but if your not on any stage its still a rolling 12 months (this is where the dodgy ones can perhaps play the system) although any sickness in the 6 months should count towards the rolling 12months its not very clear.
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Re: attendance procedure

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TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
tetley smooth wrote:So if the pro's are off stages in 6 months what are the cons?

Its a little more complicated so that gives unscrupulous posties/managers more scope to fiddle the system.

The contact requirements at first glance seem more restrictive.

After 6 months of being on a stage you're clear, but if your not on any stage its still a rolling 12 months (this is where the dodgy ones can perhaps play the system) although any sickness in the 6 months should count towards the rolling 12months its not very clear.
Are you permitted any absence within that six months in order to clear a stage warning once the six months have elapsed?
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Re: attendance procedure

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DavidUK wrote:
TrueBlueTerrier wrote:
tetley smooth wrote:So if the pro's are off stages in 6 months what are the cons?

Its a little more complicated so that gives unscrupulous posties/managers more scope to fiddle the system.

The contact requirements at first glance seem more restrictive.

After 6 months of being on a stage you're clear, but if your not on any stage its still a rolling 12 months (this is where the dodgy ones can perhaps play the system) although any sickness in the 6 months should count towards the rolling 12months its not very clear.
Are you permitted any absence within that six months in order to clear a stage warning once the six months have elapsed?

No you are not permitted any absence :wink: - but if you do go sick then the 2nd stage is triggered by 2 absences and/or 10 days. However for ease of reference here is a screen grab of the new standards
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Re: attendance procedure

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No you are not permitted any absence :wink: - but if you do go sick then the 2nd stage is triggered by 2 absences and/or 10 days. However for ease of reference here is a screen grab of the new standards
new attendance.png
Could you tell me where I can find the rest of the 'new attendance procedure'?
I'm currently searching on here to find it but this is the closest I've gotten so far.
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Oh wait, think I've found it
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