ANNOUNCEMENT : ALL OF ROYAL MAIL'S EMPLOYMENT POLICIES (AGREEMENTS) AT A GLANCE (Updated 2021)... HERE
ANNOUNCEMENT : PLEASE BE AWARE WE ARE NOT ON FACEBOOK AT ALL!
'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible evidence
-
fishtank
- Posts: 19732
- Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
- Gender: Male
'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible evidence
http://www.acas.org.uk/index.aspx?articleid=4310" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible evidence
Some employees are secretly recording meetings with managers with the intention of using them as evidence at employment tribunals. And with the prevalence of sophisticated portable recording devices - including on many mobile phones - it's a trend that looks likely to continue.
Employers may well wonder if such a practice is fair or reasonable. Certainly, tribunals have been describing covert recording as 'very distasteful' and 'discreditable'. But case law suggests that this in itself may not be enough to make them inadmissible as evidence.
Following decisions in one case, experts say that recordings of disciplinary hearings and subsequent meetings may be admissible provided the employer has been given the evidence before the tribunal hearing, including both the recording and its transcription so that its veracity can be checked. If there's a lot of material to go through, employers should be told which parts are relevant to the proceedings.
In the same case, secret recordings of private conversations were treated differently. They were not deemed to be admissible unless the recordings revealed evidence of discrimination.
Employers may want to prohibit recording in their procedures and policies, but experts suggest that this won't deter some. Better advice, they maintain, is for managers to assume they are being recorded and to remember that what they are saying may be admitted as evidence in a tribunal.
'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible evidence
Some employees are secretly recording meetings with managers with the intention of using them as evidence at employment tribunals. And with the prevalence of sophisticated portable recording devices - including on many mobile phones - it's a trend that looks likely to continue.
Employers may well wonder if such a practice is fair or reasonable. Certainly, tribunals have been describing covert recording as 'very distasteful' and 'discreditable'. But case law suggests that this in itself may not be enough to make them inadmissible as evidence.
Following decisions in one case, experts say that recordings of disciplinary hearings and subsequent meetings may be admissible provided the employer has been given the evidence before the tribunal hearing, including both the recording and its transcription so that its veracity can be checked. If there's a lot of material to go through, employers should be told which parts are relevant to the proceedings.
In the same case, secret recordings of private conversations were treated differently. They were not deemed to be admissible unless the recordings revealed evidence of discrimination.
Employers may want to prohibit recording in their procedures and policies, but experts suggest that this won't deter some. Better advice, they maintain, is for managers to assume they are being recorded and to remember that what they are saying may be admitted as evidence in a tribunal.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
-
hans solo
- Posts: 3279
- Joined: 06 Feb 2011, 18:08
- Gender: Male
Re: 'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible eviden
was thinking of purchasing some spy equip online for doms office let all the lads listen to it 
-
glenfiddich
- Posts: 1012
- Joined: 03 Oct 2007, 13:15
Re: 'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible eviden
here we are i'll start the ball rollinghttp://ledshoppe.com/Product/hou/HE3009.htm
-
post_bitch
- Posts: 913
- Joined: 25 Jun 2010, 14:52
- Gender: Female
Re: 'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible eviden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFbcpvhOxus" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
clean and original ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkkC9cK8Hz0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
-
TrueBlueTerrier
- FORUM ADMINISTRATOR
- Posts: 72713
- Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
- Gender: Male
- Location: On my couch
Re: 'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible eviden
All post by me in Green are Admin Posts.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.
-
post_bitch
- Posts: 913
- Joined: 25 Jun 2010, 14:52
- Gender: Female
Re: 'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible eviden
hows weather in Huddersfield tbt
clean and original ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkkC9cK8Hz0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
-
TrueBlueTerrier
- FORUM ADMINISTRATOR
- Posts: 72713
- Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
- Gender: Male
- Location: On my couch
Re: 'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible eviden
All post by me in Green are Admin Posts.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.
-
dazzlin72
- Posts: 321
- Joined: 25 Jan 2010, 13:56
- Gender: Male
Re: 'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible eviden
What's good for the goose, is good for the gander then! If it's acceptable for employers to do this without having to notify the employee they are recording, so neither should the employee have to give warning, & vice verse.
-
post_bitch
- Posts: 913
- Joined: 25 Jun 2010, 14:52
- Gender: Female
Re: 'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible eviden
don't you yearn to see the sea now and again living there?
clean and original ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkkC9cK8Hz0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
-
TrueBlueTerrier
- FORUM ADMINISTRATOR
- Posts: 72713
- Joined: 30 Dec 2006, 10:29
- Gender: Male
- Location: On my couch
Re: 'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible eviden
Nope - spent a lot of my life on or near the sea anyway, its green/brown/blue goes up and down and tastes salty (if you are lucky) not much to misspost_bitch wrote:don't you yearn to see the sea now and again living there?
All post by me in Green are Admin Posts.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.
Any post in any other colour is my own responsibility.
If you like a news story I posted please click the link to show support Any news stories you can't post - PM me with a link
My sharing of news articles should not be interpreted as an endorsement or condemnation of any particular viewpoint or the issues presented. I share them solely for informational purposes.
-
clashcityrocker
- Posts: 16672
- Joined: 22 Sep 2009, 13:50
- Gender: Male
- Location: strummerville
Re: 'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible eviden
But every seventh wave is the biggest.TrueBlueTerrier wrote:Nope - spent a lot of my life on or near the sea anyway, its green/brown/blue goes up and down and tastes salty (if you are lucky) not much to misspost_bitch wrote:don't you yearn to see the sea now and again living there?
I love watching the sea. In it there are intimations of immortality.
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
-
fishtank
- Posts: 19732
- Joined: 28 Sep 2007, 17:22
- Gender: Male
Re: 'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible eviden
In it there are more often intimations of immorality.clashcityrocker wrote:I love watching the sea.In it there are intimations of immortality.
Floating around just waiting for the unsuspecting swimmer.
Usually extra large just to add inadequacy to the feeling of disgust.
good times, bad times you know I've had my share
-
post_bitch
- Posts: 913
- Joined: 25 Jun 2010, 14:52
- Gender: Female
Re: 'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible eviden

clean and original ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkkC9cK8Hz0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
-
clashcityrocker
- Posts: 16672
- Joined: 22 Sep 2009, 13:50
- Gender: Male
- Location: strummerville
Re: 'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible eviden
Is that you bitch?
The societies of consumption and squandering of material resources are incompatible with the idea of economic growth and a clean planet.
-
post_bitch
- Posts: 913
- Joined: 25 Jun 2010, 14:52
- Gender: Female
Re: 'Distasteful' covert recordings may be admissible eviden
I urged them to leave their work. They shook their heads and continued at their work. It might have been an inrush of water later that cut off their escape, or it may have been the explosion. I saw them no more.
Albert Theissinger
Steward aboard R.M.S. Titanic and survivor
http://www.postalmuseum.si.edu/titanic/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Albert Theissinger
Steward aboard R.M.S. Titanic and survivor
http://www.postalmuseum.si.edu/titanic/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
clean and original ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkkC9cK8Hz0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;