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Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow afternoon

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Geezer
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Shorter Working Week - LTB will be issued tomorrow afternoon

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From: Hayley Nutley <HNutley@cwu.org>
To: Hayley Nutley <HNutley@cwu.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2013, 16:19
Subject: SWW


Dear Colleagues,

We met with Royal Mail today and have identified that they are not prepared to even consider our members being able to bank the time even though we believe that there clearly are instances where banking would be more beneficial. The meeting closed at 3pm this afternoon and there is no resolution. Therefore our previously issued advice on this matter still stands. The indications are that they will impose the Shorter Working Week on Monday if they cannot get a consensus in the office on the options they are putting forward. Any attempt to introduce any change without agreement of the Rep and the members should be met with disagreement. Those disagreements should be forwarded immediately to the Divisional Representative and Outdoor Department.

A more detailed LTB will be issued tomorrow afternoon.


Bob Gibson
Assistant Secretary
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Post by hampshireman »

Geezer wrote:From: Hayley Nutley <HNutley@cwu.org>
To: Hayley Nutley <HNutley@cwu.org>
Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2013, 16:19
Subject: SWW


Dear Colleagues,

We met with Royal Mail today and have identified that they are not prepared to even consider our members being able to bank the time even though we believe that there clearly are instances where banking would be more beneficial. The meeting closed at 3pm this afternoon and there is no resolution. Therefore our previously issued advice on this matter still stands. The indications are that they will impose the Shorter Working Week on Monday if they cannot get a consensus in the office on the options they are putting forward. Any attempt to introduce any change without agreement of the Rep and the members should be met with disagreement. Those disagreements should be forwarded immediately to the Divisional Representative and Outdoor Department.

A more detailed LTB will be issued tomorrow afternoon.


Bob Gibson
Assistant Secretary

Been told today that the SSW will be in on Monday. (does not affect me as I am on 30 hrs)

A suprise to all.

What is the 'banking hours ' issue?

Thanks
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I thought they needed 28 days before they could force in any change :hmmmm
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Post by dvbuk55 »

DGP1 wrote:I thought they needed 28 days before they could force in any change :hmmmm
I thought they needed to honour agreements :hmmmm Looks like we've both had our pants down :chuckle
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Post by Cut Off King »

Yet again RM has managed to string out talks with the CWU until the last minute,

Then do as they wish with the members,

And the CWU plays catch-up

A deadline of 28 days BEFORE the 28th Jan should have been set by the CWU, thus giving the CWU time to formulate a response.

Too Little To Late springs to mind
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dvbuk55 wrote:
DGP1 wrote:I thought they needed 28 days before they could force in any change :hmmmm
I thought they needed to honour agreements :hmmmm Looks like we've both had our pants down :chuckle
Not the first time for us :nervous
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DGP1 wrote:
dvbuk55 wrote:
DGP1 wrote:I thought they needed 28 days before they could force in any change :hmmmm
I thought they needed to honour agreements :hmmmm Looks like we've both had our pants down :chuckle
Not the first time for us :nervous
:oops:
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Post by Hitcher »

What's a Shorter Working Week?
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Post by superteamu10 »

Our DOM is away this week thankfully as she just makes things 100% worse. However, even with the cover DOM who at least tries to talk to you properly it was impossible to see where we could have our hour off.
We haven't been through delivery methods yet and probably won't be for 6 months or more, so I think banking the hours would be the only way.
When you write down all the times and see when you are supposed to leave the office with the 15 mins taken off 4 days or any permutation, I can't see how it can be done.
Initially it was just a case of having the time earlier or at the end on 4 days as Saturday wasn't an option as there's even less time to give away then, but then as I say nothing looks possible apart from being given a day off every 8 weeks.
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Post by Glenno »

SWW don't mean jack, same amount of work in 12 mins less per day :wave :wave unless you are a P/T where your hourly rate goes up of course
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Post by hampshireman »

Glenno wrote:SWW don't mean jack, same amount of work in 12 mins less per day :wave :wave unless you are a P/T where your hourly rate goes up of course
I am eternally gratefull for my P/T wage going up.

Does not the F/T wage go up?
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Post by clashcityrocker »

hampshireman wrote:
Does not the F/T wage go up?
No. The hourly rate goes up but the wage remains the same.
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Post by Hitcher »

Can someone please explain what this is all about?

Is it the same as when FT's hours dropped from 40 to 39, and if so isn't this a good thing?
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Hitcher wrote:Can someone please explain what this is all about?

Is it the same as when FT's hours dropped from 40 to 39, and if so isn't this a good thing?
No - it is when FTs drop from 40 to 39 - not everyone has yet - so the theory may be a good thing but as usual the practice in action is a different story entirely.
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Post by fishtank »

Letter to Branches


No. 000/2013
Ref: 0000
Date: 24th January 2013


All Postal Branches
All Divisional Representatives
All Regional Organisers
All LGV Representatives
All Area Distribution Representatives
All Area Delivery Representatives
All Area Processing Representatives
All Representatives
All Members
Anybody i've missed
Bob



Dear Colleagues


Royal Mail management really are taking the piss.
Don't agree to anything.



Any enquiries in relation to this LTB should be addressed to POSTMAN,SITE ADMINISTRATOR
, e-mail: Susan@royalmailchat.org quoting Bob Gibson's famous "wave it" speech.

Yours sincerely


Fish
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